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hey everyone welcome to geofab live

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stream today's guest is going to be

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truth seeker

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for quite some time i've been wanting to

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talk to somebody other than me always

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just talking about it about uh

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not necessarily the connection between

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ufos uh demons angels and spirits but

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generally that at least from what i've

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experienced from what i know that it's

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all coming from the same place and i

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can't say that

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until i start talking to to

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true seeker i can say that he has the

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same belief system but i would love to

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hear his point of view on this so before

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we continue

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and introduce the guest i want to just

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let you know real quick in the comments

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whether you're using youtube facebook or

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twitch to watch this

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please put in the three little stars

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that's i believe uh shift a eight uh for

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for any questions so three little stars

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and then question followed by that um or

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following that so that way it jumps out

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at me and i know it's directed towards

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the guest you can also log in to uh

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telegram

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using the link in description below and

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log into the ufo telegram group and

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you'll see that there's a voice chat

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going on right now and it's also

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simultaneously broadcasting so

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you can later on during q a

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just log in raise your hand this

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basically what i mean by that is a

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little fella with a raised hand there

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tap that button and you'll be able to

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get in my queue and ask um to seek a

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question yourself

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so everything is looking pretty good so

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without any further ado let me bring

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into truth seeker welcome how are you

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hey brother i'm well man thank you for

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having me

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well i'm glad we're able to uh to speak

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today because for a while um oh actually

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it's been a while back i made this

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video it's actually what i call the

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the intro for uh for you for hub and my

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i guess the words if i'm trying to

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remember them real quick we're simply

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saying that um

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that the

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uh it's occurred to some of you but not

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uh it's

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something i'm butchering my own words

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it's occurred to

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some of you but it hasn't to a lot of

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you that the metaphysical and spiritual

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uh subjects go hand in hand with the ufo

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phenomena now i i

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we haven't really spoken prior to this

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so i don't know where you stand on this

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and again this doesn't have to be ufo

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related at all but i often mention it

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whenever i can because uh based on my

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experiences and other people's

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experiences the spirituality and

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metaphysical really does interconnect

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with ufos so at least uh we figured i

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figured we can go into some details

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regarding that but as always i just

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would like to introduce yourself and

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then go a little bit of background

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information about you as well please

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great great

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again thank you for having me um so i go

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by the name of truth sega i'm a

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spiritual and esoteric hip-hop artist

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and so i

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try to articulate my beliefs and my

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experiences

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through the form of hip-hop and also

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other things guided meditations

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um breath work sessions and and so many

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different blogging i got a book out it's

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the title of this episode spirit realm

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angels demon spirits and the sovereignty

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of god and just trying to find different

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mediums to articulate the beautiful

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truths that i've come in contact with

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about the spirit world and about how uh

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its influence that it has upon our lives

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and everything that we do has a ripple

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effect in the spirit realm as well so

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i've given my life to to study in that

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aspect and

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have had experiences with it ever since

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i was a toddler really dating back to

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when i was four years old of

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waking up in my room and being what i

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felt like attacked by shadow beings

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these beings that are

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in your room and they were on my chest

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and actually pinning me to the bed these

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two dark shadow beings and

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uh for me being so young in that

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experience i woke up in sheer terror but

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what it did it it burst something within

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me at the age of four that kind of

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marked me for the rest of my life it it

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would change the uh the type of movies

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that i wanted to watch if we were going

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to to rent a movie for the weekend with

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my friends and family and cousins and

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stuff and everybody's picking a movie

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movie that's about

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those type of subjects because i was

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always interested and even though you

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too scared to talk about that stuff or

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bring it up

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sleepovers we were telling ghost stories

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and i would say hey have you anybody

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ever had this happen to you

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wake up in the middle of the night and

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there's something in your room and and

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the more you talk about it eventually

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people say yeah i've heard about that i

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had this other type of being that's a

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shadow being that was wearing a trench

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coat and a hat walked into my room wow

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that's weird never heard of that one

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someone else would say

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yeah my dad had it happen and he calls

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them witches and they're not necessarily

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bad i've heard stories about them waking

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people up in the middle of the night

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when their houses were on fire and you

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start to hear these stories so that

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experience dating back to four years old

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had so much impact on me and even to

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what i'm doing today and i just tracing

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everything back from these monumental

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experiences with

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spirituality with

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spirit beings

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ufos ufology the first time

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seeing a ufo or even watching those

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movies and watching

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fire in the sky that

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scared me and made me think that

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monsters were real because it was

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so-called based upon a true story so

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uh that in intrigue uh was within me

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my entire childhood and um

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i ended up getting into the occult at a

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young age and getting into satanism and

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witchcraft which really opened up a a

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door for me to to uh to make contact

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with

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similar entities that i believe that

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were

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trying to contact me when i was a child

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but it was down the negative path and i

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was a misguided youth the misguided teen

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and then i mixed the occult and

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witchcraft and spirit contact with it

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and needless to say that didn't end up

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i was about 16 when this happened

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anywhere from from 13 to 16 when it got

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really deep and

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ended up almost getting into paranoid

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schizophrenia hearing voices making

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pacts with entities that would speak to

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me in the middle of the night pulled me

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into trance's mid-sentence and i

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couldn't control it i would turn pale

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i would begin to shake and uh see

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spirits and colors and shapes and

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they're all whispering different

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languages to me

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and my heart would race and it wasn't

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pleasant it wasn't it didn't look like

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it did on the movies all the movies i

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watched when you would see this stuff

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happening in a beautiful light so

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all of that to come to a head

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to where i um

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called out to god for help you know at

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this moment of rock bottom and having

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voices speaking to me and shadows

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dancing in in the hallways and hearing

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footsteps and just almost being

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tormented by those types of entities

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that i made pacts with and so

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um called out to god in this last hope

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of uh

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desperation at 16 i was really young

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when this happened and and um asked god

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to come into my life and forgive me of

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dabbling in those realms and

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and close those doors and and he did and

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so i i got in church and had an

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encounter with with god uh september of

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2000 september 7th i

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rededicated my life back to god

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and have been following that path ever

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since and so on the christian path

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you know going to church and youth group

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at the time it's pretty there's a

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monotony there but there's still some

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there's still some exploration upon

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spiritual subjects and spiritual matters

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my studies started to take me even

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deeper and

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to be honest with you a lot of things

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to many of the things that i was

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interested in as a youth that i was

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handling

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um without responsibility and tapping

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into it without a life that was devoted

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to

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realms at once and maintain sanity so

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everything came full circle for me and i

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began to see a lot of the things that i

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ran from

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from the occult within the bible

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including ufos including spirit contact

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being taught from beyond the grave by

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the ancestors reincarnation

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communing with angels leaving your body

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all of these things that the majority of

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christendom would would deem the occult

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or deemed a new age and we should stay

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away from because it's demonic i found

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that the very patriarchs and people that

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i looked up to within the holy

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scriptures

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were practicing many of these magical

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and curious arts

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from a place of compassion and from a

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place of a life devoted to those things

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my story comes full circle to now be

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reintroduced to many of the mystical and

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metaphysical aspects of life and uh and

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finding biblical grounds for for many of

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them that would not speak against it

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because the majority of christians would

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again label these things and tell you

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why we should stay away or tell you why

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it's demonic even what i bring to the

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table with ufology

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any christian that you ask the majority

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of them are going to tell you that the

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link between ufos and

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and the spirit world is strictly demonic

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hands down they'll there's no no

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question about it not even space

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brothers not even any uh theory about

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maybe it's us from

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a thousand or a million years coming

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back to our former selves any of the

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theories that we like to

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to explore in ufology christendom would

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say that it is

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that they have the staple on that

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subject and that is demonic and so

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my studies and my

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experiences have proven otherwise and

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and i tie it back into the angels

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of the bible and the angelic uh heavenly

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hosts that are watching over humanity

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and have been since our conception

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so i know that's a mouthful brother but

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that is a introduction in my world view

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and uh where i'm coming from with this

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discussion tonight

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no that's great it's just um i kept

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thinking that's a lot to unpack because

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excuse me

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i know i'm not limited on time and

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you're saying you you you are not either

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if i'm not mistaken so um at least we

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don't have to hurry up and try to to

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rush over things so

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based on from your point of view what do

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you feel like would be the the best to

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start with uh to just kind of

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start

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unraveling what what all of this is

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yeah

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um what is it all about that's a that's

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a mouthful you know because i think it's

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about a lot of different things

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i will say this

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um

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my book about

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spirit realm angels demons spirits

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and the caveat to those are the

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sovereignty of god and what that means

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is how

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the creator has orchestrated this realm

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um

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meticulously

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how everything and everyone every being

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every angel every demon

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every microscopic organism

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the ones we've encountered the ones that

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we know everything has a purpose and

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everything works together cohesively and

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so

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when it comes to

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angels and them having jobs and

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ufology you know uh there's jobs there's

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hierarchy there's there's duties the

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ants are created with a specific duty um

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buzzards clean the earth

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even

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if we throw down candy or or old food

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there's coyotes and there's buzzards and

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there's creeping things that come out of

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the earth to clean it up and they go

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back to whence they came

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and um

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and when i approached the subject of

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spirituality

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whether it's the realm of the angelic or

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the demonic i would say that these

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beings have the same

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uh type of responsibilities and that

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they all have a purpose everything in

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our life is here to serve us and to

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teach us and everything and everyone all

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of the beings even the the good the bad

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the ugly the scary everything serves a

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purpose and so

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that's something that is worth looking

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into when it comes to

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um

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anything

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in in the spirit world and if that is

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just

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to

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have the role of a messenger

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because we know that the word angel

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only means messenger

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it's it's those who carry a message and

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so whether it's the the elohim whether

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it's the seraphim the raphaim these

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different types of of orders of angels

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that they carry messages with them some

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of them hold the mysteries of heaven

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they hold the mysteries of god they give

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you downloads about the things of heaven

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and in the spirit realm and how it works

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and how it operates

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um

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the demonic

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you know when we look into uh that realm

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which is it's not really fun to look at

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for many people but if i look back at my

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life i understand that those packs that

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i made early on with those lower level

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entities

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um

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there was a lesson in it

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learned and now

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this day i'm i'm very thankful

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that hindsight is 20 20 but i'm able to

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look back and there's a uh a

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graciousness there's a gratitude to the

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creator and to those beings

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for imparting such a hard lesson

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that i learned but i did make it out and

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i am here today to tell my story so just

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the fact that everything works

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cohesively together it's just beautiful

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um

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orchestra if you will of the levels and

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the hierarchy and the types and and

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beings and uh and we all work to

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so for example would would you then

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consider the the the space brothers the

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ufos all these things would there be in

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that in that category of messengers as

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yeah i think uh

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you know it's it obviously gets

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complicated um

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but

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i do think that they are the ones who uh

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have been watching over since the

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beginning um you hear

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some of the the the work of

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zechariah sitchin about the anunnaki and

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these beings that were sent here to seed

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or create mankind

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um it really

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there's a there's a middle ground there

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with the work of dr michael heiser who

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talks about the divine counsel of the

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elohim and these gods and these beings

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that came down and were almost the hand

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of yahweh or the hand of the supreme

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creator on the face of the earth and so

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i do think that tracing back there was

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advanced civilizations and that

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um many people believed that our dna was

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was tampered with at some point so

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when we we read about these beings that

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were far more sophisticated far more

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enlightened far more spiritual and

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they're in all of our holy books not

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just the bible i'm just very well versed

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in the bible but where you go to the the

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bhagavad-gita and you go into chinese

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lord chinese legend and also the native

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american legends about the star people

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and you start to see a similar story and

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it wasn't these

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uh

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divisive evil beings that created

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mankind it was our creators and so

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um yeah i think that

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many of what we're seeing if not all in

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in the in the sky are

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um

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what we would call angels

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they are messengers and and they they

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have a role they have things that they

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do upon the earth and um

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whether that's bringing in the seasons

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whether you get to see them because when

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it comes to the subject of ufology you i

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know you know this more than anybody is

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that there's different types of craft

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you have

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nuts and bolts crafts with occupants on

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it but you also have what i think that

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i've encountered the most of which would

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be

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alive

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so instead of a ship with occupants

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you're seeing

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entities

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that are huge that are made out of light

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that are made out of fire that are made

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out of plasma and they're traveling the

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cosmos so i think when we catch glimpses

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of those those beings and those entities

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they are

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something very ancient something very uh

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bright shiny mesmerizing to even look at

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and they impart creativity because they

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are from

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the creator and so that that's been my

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experience it's been all

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uh that of of of of beauty and honor and

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creativity that is released upon

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sightings if you will

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and um

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so yeah i do think that they are uh the

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messengers and uh the angels from from

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the bible

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so at least from from

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that point of view from the bible's

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point of view as you said there could be

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mis i guess is it the right word to say

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well

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excuse me

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there was a point i was going for what

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i'm meant to ask is that so as we see

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things differently now um would then

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at one point do you believe or know

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whether or not let's say

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those beings under different ships and

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angels and spirit in general that we

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know converse with each other

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excuse me converse with each other or

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and uh

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kind of move forward with a certain plan

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or are they still very much individual

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individualistically kind of fulfilling

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the one message coming from above which

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yeah well i think that whatever happens

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is that message from above which is god

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so that would be the sovereignty of how

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everything works together

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um

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as far as

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identifying different races and the way

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that they live and where they what do

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they do in their leisure time you know

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there's a lot of people who claim to

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have a lot of experience in in inner

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uh

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know that i just have to question um

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because a lot of the information is

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slippery

519
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so

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to you know

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again leisure time diets and people

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they know that the dot what with the

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arcturians

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eat for

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delicacy and things like that

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and

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i i feel like i've been privy to some

528
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,799
beautiful information and uh but it's

529
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not just me i'm not special i think

530
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anyone can can tap into this whether

531
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it's through stargazing whether it's

532
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through meditation and a life that's

533
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devoted to trying to make contact and a

534
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,440
lot of people are doing it now but as

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far as

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00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:39,840
getting the juicy details

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i don't think we need to know

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it's not it's not for

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00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:46,960
humanity to know the juicy details but i

540
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,600
think if we if we can catch a glimpse

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of what's going on of the fact that

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we're not alone

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and the fact that

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we have friends in high places

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um

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i don't think we could handle the truth

547
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i really don't and and i do

548
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think that we have to be careful with

549
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:10,789
fantasy and

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00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:13,760
lore and those things which really

551
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,080
muddy the waters with

552
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,679
investigators and people who are really

553
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,520
doing the research who can come on an

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interview like this and really just tell

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00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,360
you anything in your listeners but i

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respect you and your listeners

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so much so not to to do that

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because i know that we're being watched

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over i know that they're benevolent

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i know that

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they are they do have a hand in creation

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but to tell you

563
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what their cities look like if there

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even is such a thing

565
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:47,440
um from from the information that that i

566
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,320
that i do know is that they're not

567
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,600
um like us as far as

568
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:56,159
um flesh and blood

569
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,080
like we would think of gray or there's

570
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,559
other civilizations out there

571
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:02,640
the universe is limitless there's

572
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,960
limitless possibilities with that being

573
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:06,799
said this could just be

574
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,760
those beings that watch over humanity

575
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,159
that are protecting us from other

576
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,400
outside invading forces or making sure

577
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,640
that we don't destroy ourselves

578
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:18,799
in this evolutionary process

579
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:21,039
so that that's a that's a big part of my

580
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:24,799
work is is to uh just relate it back

581
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,320
scripturally and and to make sure that

582
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,640
we we do toe the line with

583
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,919
some sort of

584
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:33,279
um

585
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,880
you can we get caught up in fantasy

586
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,400
really quick and people love it people

587
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,720
eat it up and and you can say anything

588
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,559
and people begin to believe it so i

589
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:46,320
can't tell you that that they have

590
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:49,039
conversations i can't tell you that

591
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,840
they

592
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,279
you know a lot of this other stuff is

593
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:53,039
going on

594
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,320
there's a huge part of me that's a

595
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,120
skeptic of all of this but i honor that

596
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,600
skeptic within me and within everyone

597
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,360
out there because i feel like that is

598
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,279
what

599
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,679
prompts you for the truth and to have a

600
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,880
real

601
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,080
encounter

602
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:09,279
with a

603
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,520
alien whatever you want to call them

604
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,000
there's many different terms

605
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:18,480
the the idea again of of the angel is

606
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,440
simply

607
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:22,000
a messenger now they wouldn't greet

608
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:23,120
themselves

609
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,159
or

610
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,320
greet you and introduce themselves

611
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,320
as this if they would say that there

612
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:30,000
there was a messenger they would an

613
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,200
angel they would just say that they were

614
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,720
a messenger hence they carry a message

615
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,159
and and i think that

616
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,159
that very much so within within their

617
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:41,279
essence the essence of all spirits

618
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:42,720
carry a message

619
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,200
they carry a code they carry a

620
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,760
uh what we'll call a vibration

621
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,600
that when you meet them you feel a

622
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,360
certain type of way

623
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,440
there's there's there's individuals that

624
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,440
we meet that when we're in the presence

625
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:57,679
with of them we feel

626
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,159
we feel their message they are an angel

627
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:02,000
they are they carry a message they have

628
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,200
an aura

629
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,440
about them whether it's good

630
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,919
or whether it's bad so the bible really

631
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,000
talks about discerning spirits and being

632
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,720
able to discern uh the intentions and

633
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,000
the thoughts

634
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,039
of such beings and such people

635
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:18,320
and so

636
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:19,279
this is

637
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,399
what is just a gift that i think we grow

638
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,039
in the spirit of the discernment to be

639
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,240
able to tell

640
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:28,159
uh the fruit of an individual or the

641
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:29,600
fruit of a

642
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,320
e.t craft if you will and never have i

643
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,279
had an encounter where um

644
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,520
i felt threatened now there's the the

645
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:39,120
fear and things that are within me from

646
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,559
watching a lot of those movies when i

647
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,039
was a child for sure 100 so there's that

648
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,720
reasoning that happens

649
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,880
when a craft would come down low or a

650
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,760
light would come down really low and um

651
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:50,720
but

652
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:54,080
to say that we have you know this privy

653
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:56,960
detail about

654
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,000
relation and diet and and all of these

655
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:03,200
things i i i it really raises a red flag

656
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,559
for me

657
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:06,880
because much of that

658
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,520
is is i don't feel like they share it i

659
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,279
i don't feel like they share it with

660
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,320
with individuals who have made contact

661
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,559
i think that there's there is a an

662
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,880
angelic message of

663
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,720
take care of yourself

664
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,279
take care of humanity be present it

665
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:25,919
really ties back into spirituality many

666
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,159
of the the contactees will tell you that

667
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,080
many people who have experienced

668
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:32,080
near-death experiences

669
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:32,880
or

670
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,830
deep trips on

671
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:39,600
plant medicines

672
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,320
very similar experiences very similar

673
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,159
messages that they come they come back

674
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,240
with that this place

675
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:48,559
is temporary to be mindful to be present

676
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,320
and to be a human

677
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,880
and there's things that

678
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:55,600
that people claim to know that

679
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:56,480
that

680
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:57,200
it's

681
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:04,870
i think that's why a lot of the uh

682
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:07,760
the christian community will call

683
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:10,000
call it demonic

684
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:11,440
because there are entities that will

685
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:14,159
trade you knowledge

686
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,440
for blood

687
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,120
there's entities that will trade you

688
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:19,840
knowledge for a piece of your psyche

689
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,919
and so when you see a lot of the people

690
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,559
in ufology and in spirituality

691
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,000
channeling in these things and getting

692
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:28,080
this all this privy information that's

693
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,840
why an outsider or again somebody who's

694
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:31,679
religious would definitely

695
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:34,480
see that red flag and immediately say

696
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:38,240
it's something that's demonic

697
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,200
so

698
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:41,760
if if angels then would be messengers

699
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,669
again um

700
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:49,279
messengers as well

701
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,240
so

702
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,080
just like a different type of vibration

703
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,559
you as you mentioned or uh

704
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,440
yeah a different message

705
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,880
a different message

706
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,000
so

707
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,399
the message could be

708
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,760
if you live a life that is full of

709
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,520
debauchery

710
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,120
drug use

711
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:11,840
stealing from people you're

712
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,880
a pathological liar there's character

713
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:16,720
traits that

714
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,320
are negative

715
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,320
we would say sinful they're just not

716
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:21,200
good

717
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,880
you're hurting people you're deceiving

718
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:24,960
people you're lying to people when you

719
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,279
align yourself with those types of deeds

720
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:29,039
upon the earth

721
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,880
the vibrational frequencies in the

722
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,960
ethers there's beings that are attracted

723
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:34,080
to you

724
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,880
because you resonate at that frequency

725
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,200
and there's certain beings that are

726
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,360
attracted to higher frequencies as well

727
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:42,880
and i do think that that's when we get

728
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,039
into ufology and we get into the angelic

729
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,279
and having these beautiful encounters

730
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,679
for me and for many people

731
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,440
who have encountered what they would

732
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,480
call demonic or something unpleasant it

733
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:56,000
was because of the type of life that

734
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,440
they were living on the earth the kind

735
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:59,360
of deeds that they were doing

736
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,799
most of these people weren't helping

737
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,120
people they weren't they didn't have a

738
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,440
life devoted to prayer and to devotion

739
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:08,320
into to uh meditation they weren't

740
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,519
waking up

741
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,240
daily with inward reflection about how

742
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,399
can i be of assistance how can i be a

743
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,880
better person it's usually the opposite

744
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,120
many people with that sin consciousness

745
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,399
i don't know that's a weird word but

746
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,960
that consciousness where you wake up

747
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:24,960
on the on the flip side of that and you

748
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,799
wake up and you wonder how can i get

749
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,440
over on somebody how can i

750
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:31,440
steal how can i cheat there's people who

751
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,559
wake up that way and when you do that

752
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,039
your psych it trains your psyche and you

753
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,159
begin to attract beings in the ethers

754
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:42,880
that vibrate on that level of frequency

755
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,519
so that when you do

756
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,559
perhaps

757
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,399
tap in through some type of spiritual

758
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,519
means whether it's drug use whether it's

759
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,760
meditation it doesn't matter when you

760
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,279
hit rock bottom

761
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,200
you begin to see

762
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,120
those beings that you're entertaining on

763
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:00,960
the other side and that's something

764
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,960
that's very scary that's something that

765
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,399
will make people want to change their

766
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,600
lives

767
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,679
because they have those deeds in mind

768
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,679
they have those desires in mind

769
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,440
so

770
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,559
but again i think that they still act as

771
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,919
messengers

772
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:18,399
because it's like hey

773
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,039
when you do get to see them

774
00:32:26,830 --> 00:32:23,279
if you do now you can see their the

775
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:26,840
results of of their activity

776
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:30,799
but when you meet them

777
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,710
they're on that level of vibration

778
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,320
and if you don't

779
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,559
change

780
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,080
the life that you're living and the

781
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,000
things that you're doing

782
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,200
you are opening yourself up

783
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:48,960
to legal ground

784
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:51,039
to these types of beings to

785
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,519
have access to your art field

786
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,120
to have access to your body and have

787
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:56,720
access to your mind

788
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,200
and so that's their lesson

789
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:00,960
if you don't stop lying

790
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,880
i'm coming to get you

791
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,279
if you don't stop cheating

792
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,039
i'm going to cheat you

793
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,760
and so we learn hands-on

794
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,399
it's not we we don't we really rarely

795
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:14,000
learn by reading in the book we have to

796
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,200
figure something out we have to

797
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:17,440
experience it hands on if you can show

798
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,679
it to us we'll learn so these lessons

799
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,240
that we learn in this earth school

800
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,640
are taught by those teachers and some of

801
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,640
those teachers are hard on us

802
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,799
some of those teachers have showed us

803
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:31,200
tough love but they exist and they're

804
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,519
created to do that i i don't even think

805
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:35,600
that it makes them bad

806
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:38,720
entities or bad beings it's how they

807
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,000
were created they have a beautiful job

808
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,799
in a role to play in this in this earth

809
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,039
school in in this realm

810
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:48,960
and again that's for the lower level

811
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:51,600
demonic stuff if you open yourself up

812
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,399
but if you begin to do the other things

813
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,799
doing good deeds and alms and taking

814
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,120
care of the widows and the orphans many

815
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,519
things that all of the religions

816
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,360
beg you to do

817
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,760
don't lie don't cheat don't steal help

818
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:07,440
people and once you begin to do these

819
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,560
things

820
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,639
even without being told it's just in

821
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,480
your nature that you've chosen that that

822
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,639
path or that higher road then you begin

823
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,159
to open up yourself

824
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,639
for assistance from these higher beings

825
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:20,639
and if you do tap in through meditation

826
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:23,359
prayer stargazing you begin to see some

827
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,639
things that you are entertaining in the

828
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:28,560
spirit world they'll pop in and say

829
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,520
hello

830
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,200
if you ask for it

831
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,560
if you if it's if you can handle it

832
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:36,720
those type of things and so that's been

833
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,599
my story and and you know many others

834
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:42,079
who talk about

835
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:43,839
this

836
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:47,679
almost a spiritual warfare

837
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,800
but i don't even think that they're

838
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,159
fighting each other i don't think the

839
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,159
angels and the demons are the higher and

840
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:54,720
lower are fighting

841
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,520
each other i think they're fighting for

842
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,839
dominance of the human psyche of the

843
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,000
human soul and the human spirit and

844
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:03,839
that's their reward

845
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,960
you know um now where they come from

846
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:09,119
how they got here i do think it is

847
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:10,240
sovereign

848
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,440
and there's a lot of different legends

849
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,520
there's a lot of different lore of who

850
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,520
these beings are

851
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:17,280
but on top of that there's so much

852
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,440
nuance there's so many different types

853
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,480
of

854
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:22,720
beings within there so to just say that

855
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,079
there's only angels or higher beings

856
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,520
you also have to understand that there's

857
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:29,680
there's lower level entities but there's

858
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,480
also neutral beings there's beings that

859
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:34,720
are just here to clean up there's beings

860
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:37,200
that push and pull the the tides of the

861
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,240
ocean

862
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:40,800
um that are over the the solar systems

863
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,240
and in constellations and so much more

864
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:47,040
and to for us to just lump these things

865
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,920
into

866
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:50,240
we'll say angels are in demons

867
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:53,280
and for other people let's throw ufology

868
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:54,320
in there

869
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,119
aliens like all of them are aliens no

870
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,359
there are so many

871
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,000
in between of of rankings and different

872
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:04,880
names and um different types of of

873
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:08,160
angels even as it's concerned biblically

874
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,960
um

875
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,960
now that's not to say that again there's

876
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,640
not these other

877
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,480
you know life on mars and in

878
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,359
civilization that are doing are living a

879
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,359
similar life to us i don't know i'm not

880
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:21,359
privy with that information

881
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,400
um

882
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,000
but the information i do is is

883
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,400
definitely spiritual and

884
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,680
um

885
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:28,960
and

886
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,440
much of what you see

887
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,200
and

888
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,359
whether it's video or whether it's

889
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,599
again through stargazing you you find

890
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,280
out that

891
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,320
these beings are not made of matter

892
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,000
again that they're made out of fire that

893
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,079
they're made out of plasma and this goes

894
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,480
back to all the religious holy texts it

895
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,960
talks about them being made out of

896
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,720
the fire of god

897
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:54,720
but as they wish they can shapeshift and

898
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,040
they can come down here and take upon

899
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,359
any image that they want

900
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,119
that they have the ability to shapeshift

901
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:03,920
and to deliver and carry a message the

902
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,079
book of enoch really goes into

903
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,280
um detail about that as well as that is

904
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:11,920
reiterated within the book of psalms and

905
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,320
the book of hebrews that say that

906
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:16,400
the lord god maketh his ministering

907
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,800
spirits his holy angels as a flame of

908
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,440
fire but as they wish they can take upon

909
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,400
the appearance of men and come down here

910
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:26,079
and walk amongst men hence the

911
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,440
scriptures saying

912
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,280
that be careful when you entertain

913
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:31,359
strangers because some of you

914
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,230
so i wanted to ask if you could maybe

915
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,359
then just to give a more of a

916
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,960
i don't know if practical is the right

917
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,880
word but let's say in the experiences

918
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,640
you were having that made you

919
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,440
turn the page so to say in 2000

920
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,960
can you give

921
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,960
give a detailed

922
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,079
um

923
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,720
i guess a process if you will about what

924
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,240
was happening to you you know you were

925
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,640
talking about vibrations earlier in and

926
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,960
encounters and different things whatever

927
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,040
was happening whatever made that shift

928
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,680
for you can you maybe go into that to to

929
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,839
where i might give just a much better

930
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,160
for sure i guess um i guess much better

931
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,040
um explanation of how the interactions

932
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,200
uh or or even just if it wasn't a

933
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,200
physical or or

934
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:21,119
you know anything that you could

935
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,880
immediately interact with however the

936
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:24,640
process happened for you yeah to just

937
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,880
simply lay it out

938
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,320
for sure

939
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,920
so

940
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,480
with the timeline i

941
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,440
in 1998

942
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,720
um

943
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:39,200
uh i had a friend who was always

944
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,960
inviting me to church i didn't want to

945
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,760
go

946
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,599
because i was into occultic practices

947
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,599
back in 1998 and

948
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,760
just a rebellious teenager

949
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,359
he would invite me to

950
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,800
prayer meetings

951
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,800
i didn't want to go

952
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,160
but he would be consistent he would

953
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,000
always invite me and i never wanted to

954
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,000
go but then he told me this one time he

955
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:00,160
invited me to a prayer meeting i told

956
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:01,040
him no

957
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:02,400
he says well i want you to come to this

958
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,680
one because there's going to be a

959
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:05,440
prophet there

960
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,400
so i said well what with the prophet he

961
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,000
said a prophet is kind of like a

962
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,839
christian psychic and they know things

963
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,000
about people god tells them things about

964
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:16,240
you when they look at you and for me if

965
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,000
somebody was into those kind of things

966
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,839
as supernatural as a child i was like

967
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,240
this sounds cool yeah i'm coming so i

968
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:24,720
ended up going to that prayer meeting

969
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,440
in

970
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,119
1998

971
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,280
and i uh

972
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,119
i'm always there they had this beautiful

973
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,599
worship music on beautiful tones and

974
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,839
people singing and it was in somebody's

975
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,960
apartment

976
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,800
and i would see people with their eyes

977
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,800
closed and their hands raised and they

978
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,280
were just weeping and crying like

979
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,640
they were sitting in this living room

980
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,720
with me but they were in

981
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:48,880
a different realm like they were tapped

982
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,200
into something and it was so peaceful in

983
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,800
that place and so

984
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:54,560
uh this one gentleman come and sat down

985
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:56,000
next to me on the couch and he said hey

986
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,359
derek would you

987
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,520
uh like to ask jesus to forgive you of

988
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,960
your sins

989
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,880
you know and

990
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,880
i didn't want him not to

991
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,880
right i didn't want jesus not to forgive

992
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,800
me so i said yeah i'd like that i'd like

993
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,400
him to forgive me he said i want you to

994
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,920
pray this prayer with me and so he just

995
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:13,280
led me in what they call the sinner's

996
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,240
prayer

997
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,480
and um

998
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,160
acknowledging the work that he did on

999
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,160
the cross i ask you to forgive me

1000
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,319
cleanse me from all the unrighteousness

1001
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:23,680
and the wrong that i've ever done i want

1002
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,200
to make you the lord of my life and i

1003
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,599
prayed this prayer and i meant it

1004
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,760
when he led me and and as i prayed that

1005
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:31,040
prayer

1006
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,720
i began to weep

1007
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,400
i began to break

1008
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:36,720
and begin to shake and tremble and i

1009
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:40,240
felt this immense what felt like fire

1010
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,520
entered me

1011
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,599
from the top of my head and just moved

1012
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,160
throughout my entire being

1013
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,240
and deep down into my stomach and my

1014
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:50,079
spirit and i felt like it was burning me

1015
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:51,200
up

1016
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,200
and but it was scary at the same time

1017
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,359
but it was so refreshing

1018
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,680
and i felt like it it cleansed me and

1019
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,680
burned out all the wrong that i had ever

1020
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,599
done every lie that i had ever told

1021
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,040
everything that i've ever stolen all the

1022
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,119
things that i that i done in secret that

1023
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,760
i was ashamed of like it instantly

1024
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,480
deleted it it took it away from me and i

1025
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,880
was in 1998 and i began to to to go to

1026
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,160
church and and be a part of that

1027
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,560
christian experience for several months

1028
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,480
until i started going to school

1029
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,480
then when i started going back to school

1030
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:24,960
i uh i fell into the wrong crowd and

1031
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,119
eventually got away from christianity

1032
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,359
quit going to church and really got into

1033
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,839
the occult even darker so as i was

1034
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,280
dabbling with it as an early teen

1035
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,119
once i got into christianity and fell

1036
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,040
away from that i began to rebel from

1037
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,960
that light and from christianity and

1038
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:42,400
those things and so

1039
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,280
um i ended up meeting a witch

1040
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:46,720
he was a warlock

1041
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,520
who

1042
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:49,920
had so many stories about the spirit

1043
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,720
world and and experiences and encounters

1044
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,839
and we would just

1045
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,400
pick his brain for hours about how he

1046
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:58,400
would make contact and philosophies and

1047
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,520
things like that he would teach us

1048
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,440
little spells and things to do on people

1049
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,079
and and um so he i was pretty much like

1050
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,880
a pupil of his at least i felt that way

1051
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,160
and

1052
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,240
that just really got me even more into

1053
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:12,079
the occult of like we know somebody

1054
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,960
who's

1055
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,960
who we can ask questions to

1056
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,040
and so we just started

1057
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,359
finding all of these books and getting

1058
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,520
into the necronomicon as a teenager

1059
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,960
getting into

1060
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,680
the

1061
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,000
um

1062
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:27,440
satanic bible

1063
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,319
and wicca and and really mixing it all

1064
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,920
together like i didn't care what it was

1065
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,359
because i understood that there was

1066
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,440
something real about

1067
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,680
spirituality about christianity so maybe

1068
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:39,680
this other side's real too

1069
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:42,400
so i began to explore and uh and seek

1070
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,200
into that um for

1071
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,720
maybe two years

1072
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,480
so much so until

1073
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,040
it all came to a head

1074
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,800
after an experience that i had i ended

1075
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,480
up moving away

1076
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,119
from alabama to louisiana so i was about

1077
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,800
two and a half hours away from most of

1078
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,560
my friends and i was living in the

1079
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,079
country with my mom

1080
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,800
and my brother and for my birthday my

1081
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,599
mom

1082
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:08,000
took me and dropped me off in alabama to

1083
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,000
be with my girlfriend and with my

1084
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:12,000
friends for the for the weekends dropped

1085
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,680
me off on friday was gonna come pick me

1086
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,920
up sunday take me back home my cousin

1087
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,520
was with me

1088
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,560
and

1089
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:21,119
he was gonna go spend the summer with me

1090
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,079
um

1091
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,240
we went and stayed with one friend and

1092
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,480
whenever we stayed with him

1093
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,680
we

1094
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,839
stayed one night and i had a big duffel

1095
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:31,200
bag

1096
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,160
and

1097
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,599
when we left

1098
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,800
i took

1099
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,040
all of his belongings that i wanted i

1100
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,440
took video games and t-shirts and cds

1101
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,760
and those things that a teenager would

1102
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,960
would steal

1103
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,240
and i took them and i put them in that

1104
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,760
duffel bag and i told them bye and i

1105
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,920
went and stayed with another friend

1106
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:49,280
saturday night

1107
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,400
friend and did the same thing to him

1108
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,800
took all of his cds when we left

1109
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,800
t-shirts video games i mean i had a

1110
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,560
duffel bag full of stuff because my mom

1111
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,560
was gonna come get me the next night

1112
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,160
bring me back to louisiana in the

1113
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:04,240
country and i would have all of this

1114
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,960
stuff

1115
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,720
so go stay with another friend she's

1116
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,480
supposed to come that sunday night and

1117
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,640
she don't show up

1118
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:12,800
well somebody lets me crash on the couch

1119
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,920
and my mom says that she's having car

1120
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:17,680
problems in louisiana and it's going to

1121
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,680
be another day so she'll come get me

1122
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,280
monday night so we end up finding a

1123
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,480
place to stay

1124
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,319
one night i stayed with my girlfriend i

1125
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,480
stayed in her tree house because we were

1126
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,040
teenagers we snuck in there

1127
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,480
and um

1128
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,079
we had to find another place to stay

1129
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,000
well all the while we're hanging out at

1130
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,560
the warlocks house too and

1131
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:38,400
there's huge parties over there all

1132
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,480
these teenagers all these people

1133
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,720
i stay with him one night

1134
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,920
and

1135
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,079
my mom puts it off again hey the car's

1136
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,240
still in the shop i'll be there tuesday

1137
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,400
okay fine cool i get to stay longer but

1138
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,079
i got all this all these belongings i've

1139
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:54,160
been stealing i ended up stealing

1140
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,440
something

1141
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,680
from the warlock as well i stole a video

1142
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,520
game dungeons and dragons video game

1143
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,480
from them

1144
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:02,960
and i put it across the street in my

1145
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,880
duffel bag that was hidden in another

1146
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:06,880
friend's closet i put some clothes on

1147
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,839
top of it so when my mom finally came

1148
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:11,760
i run across the street i grabbed a bag

1149
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,800
and we're gone you know make make way

1150
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,880
the good little thief that i was

1151
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,280
and um

1152
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,119
she still didn't show up and eventually

1153
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:23,040
we didn't have nowhere to stay so we

1154
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,800
were going to stay with the warlock

1155
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,000
again

1156
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,520
so we're over at his house me and my

1157
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:29,920
cousin and there had this big party

1158
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,040
going on

1159
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,640
and uh there's just

1160
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,480
people everywhere a bunch of teenagers

1161
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:36,800
there they're drinking and hanging out

1162
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,160
and we were sitting inside and

1163
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,760
this night there was a bunch of people

1164
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,599
there that i've never seen before

1165
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:45,200
a lot of older guys who we got a bunch

1166
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,960
of teenagers but then you got all of

1167
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,280
these dudes in their 40s and 50s and

1168
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,720
older

1169
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:53,280
and they're all wearing black

1170
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,400
and

1171
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,040
they're all in the in the living room

1172
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:58,800
sitting down and me and my cousin are

1173
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:00,800
sitting across from them somebody lights

1174
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,599
up a joint we're at a party

1175
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,839
and there's girls everywhere

1176
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:06,960
and

1177
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,079
somebody walks through the front door

1178
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,400
and it's another friend

1179
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,040
who has the video game that i stole from

1180
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:19,280
the warlock so he walks in with the

1181
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,560
video game

1182
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,640
and he walks over across from me and

1183
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,280
hands it to the warlock and he says okay

1184
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,440
thank you

1185
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,680
and uh friend walks off didn't say

1186
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,880
nothing to me

1187
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:32,000
and

1188
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,680
they all look at each other all the

1189
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,079
warlocks and witches and they shake this

1190
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,000
okay

1191
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,680
one at a time

1192
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,079
each one of them gets up stands up walks

1193
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:44,400
to the back of the house one

1194
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,359
two

1195
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,079
three i think it was five of them

1196
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,599
i'm freaking out

1197
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,760
these not only are these guys high level

1198
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,520
warlocks but they're also

1199
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,079
into gang activity like what's called

1200
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,040
the insane gangster disciples it's a a

1201
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,119
mixture of um

1202
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,880
uh folk

1203
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,319
and

1204
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,720
mysticism they re they practice reading

1205
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:09,359
the bible upside down you have to re

1206
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:12,079
state lore and it's just really

1207
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,839
dark stuff that they're all in and all

1208
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:16,160
most of those kids were in on it so i

1209
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:17,359
didn't know if we were going to get tied

1210
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,560
up i don't know if we're going to get

1211
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,599
beat up we're going to get jumped

1212
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,839
because they're all in gang activity so

1213
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,599
all the warlocks walk to the back i

1214
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,359
whispered in my cousin hey

1215
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,119
gotta get out of here man

1216
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,119
what what's going on i said no we gotta

1217
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,359
go he just brought the video game inside

1218
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,960
that that i stole

1219
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:35,040
oh man it's okay

1220
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,400
they just lit a joint we're about to

1221
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,880
smoke a joint no we got to go you don't

1222
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,280
understand who these people are man

1223
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,880
i get outside go now so we get up and

1224
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,800
walk outside and i tell them and we're

1225
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,359
like oh man um so there's a guy hanging

1226
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,920
out by his car he's in his car talking

1227
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:52,079
to some girls some random guy outside

1228
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:53,440
there's people everywhere and i said hey

1229
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,800
man can you give us a ride right down

1230
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,079
the road i really need to get out of

1231
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,680
here it's an emergency didn't know him

1232
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,359
he said sure man hop in

1233
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,280
so we get in the car with this guy he

1234
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,280
brings us just three miles down the road

1235
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,640
if that

1236
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,720
to my my girlfriend's house and he drops

1237
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,440
us off down the road because we're going

1238
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:11,359
to try to make a run for it for her tree

1239
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,880
house and have another night's rest

1240
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,280
until my mom shows up in her tree house

1241
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,359
so we go to the edge of the driveway and

1242
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,760
we get ready to make a beeline

1243
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,200
for the treehouse but we're waiting

1244
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:24,720
because there's a there's a light in the

1245
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,760
yard

1246
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:27,040
and the lights just

1247
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,079
moving through the yard and i'm like

1248
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,839
well that it seems like that's her dad

1249
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,359
with a flashlight just walking through

1250
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,520
the yard but i tell you we watched that

1251
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,079
that that light anywhere from 30 to 45

1252
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,920
minutes until the sun started just going

1253
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,280
down a little bit

1254
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,520
and uh and the in the the light just

1255
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,680
went away it's almost like it hypnotized

1256
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:45,359
us or something now that i look back on

1257
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,160
it

1258
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:48,960
um so we walk around the edge of the

1259
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:51,839
property and there's this big open field

1260
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:53,119
and we walk around to the edge of the

1261
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,240
field

1262
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,480
and we're getting ready to make that run

1263
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,800
for the treehouse and

1264
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:00,480
out of nowhere

1265
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,680
what i explained looked like a

1266
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,400
eight foot tall camel

1267
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,960
appeared out of thin air

1268
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,960
it was darker than the blackest of night

1269
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,520
it appeared it's about eight foot tall

1270
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,559
camel a horse it runs by me and my

1271
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:18,880
cousin knocks us both to the ground and

1272
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,839
screams and then dissipates

1273
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:23,520
into the ethers right when it passed

1274
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,280
passed us up we get up off the ground

1275
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,760
freaking out what was that we run to the

1276
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,200
tree house

1277
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,079
and that experience changed me that was

1278
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,400
one of the the pivotal moments of my

1279
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:37,119
life of being attacked or whatever that

1280
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,400
thing was

1281
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,559
um in my studies

1282
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,880
as a teenager who was into the occult

1283
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,800
and i wanted that

1284
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:46,240
wha what was it

1285
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,599
um

1286
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,000
i ended up talking to the warlock

1287
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,760
several months later we ended up go end

1288
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,839
up going back to louisiana

1289
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:55,119
um

1290
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,240
and doing

1291
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,200
my seances and all that but i go back to

1292
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:00,720
alabama and talk to the warlock and i

1293
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,440
apologize hey man i'm i'm sorry for

1294
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,079
you know for for stealing from you and

1295
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,839
and uh i didn't mean to do it i hope you

1296
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:09,839
forgive me he's like yeah i know

1297
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:12,559
i know you stole it they already told me

1298
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,520
i said well listen what was it

1299
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,319
because something

1300
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,880
formed out of thin air and and scared us

1301
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,480
and knocked us down what was it he

1302
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,480
started laughing laughing

1303
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,319
he said well i had a protection spell

1304
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,240
upon my belongings

1305
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:30,640
and it was a being that was summoned and

1306
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,760
elemental

1307
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,000
that anyone who would steal from me

1308
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:36,480
or cause me harm that the being would go

1309
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:37,359
out

1310
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,400
and it would get my belongings back

1311
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,280
and it would attack the individuals

1312
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:45,359
that was trying to harm me or steal from

1313
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,960
me so he

1314
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,280
implanted the idea of the elementals and

1315
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,440
he's working with these beings out of

1316
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,520
that he summoned out of thin air out of

1317
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,040
the ethers

1318
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,200
and

1319
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,559
again that changed me because you would

1320
00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:00,079
think that that would scare somebody say

1321
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,280
hey stay away from this stuff it's

1322
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,440
nothing to play with you know but i went

1323
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:06,000
back to louisiana after that

1324
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:07,760
and i've been beginning to go deeper

1325
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,079
because i wanted to have that ability i

1326
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:11,920
wanted to be able to work with

1327
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,520
uh magic and and work with uh demons

1328
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,599
that they would do my bidding

1329
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,839
i got enemies too i got people trying to

1330
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,119
harm me

1331
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,599
maybe i can haunt maybe i can summon an

1332
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:26,880
entity to go out and do them harm

1333
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:29,839
and so i begin to to do every seance

1334
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:32,960
every meditation every conjuring

1335
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:35,920
uh by myself in in and with groups of

1336
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,760
people and i would try to do them all

1337
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,960
i'm reading all the books i'm trying to

1338
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,240
figure out which which one of these

1339
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,480
books is real is it wicca is it is this

1340
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,400
the satanic bible there's beings that

1341
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,880
you summon in the satanic bible

1342
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:48,319
is it angel magic you know i'm trying to

1343
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,599
do them all and and none of them worked

1344
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,280
you know i'm doing all of them over over

1345
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,440
several several weeks and you know just

1346
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,800
a few months

1347
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,640
and uh my girlfriend ended up moving

1348
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:01,359
with me in uh louisiana

1349
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,079
and it wasn't until

1350
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:06,400
none of those meditations worked none of

1351
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:08,559
those conjurings worked

1352
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,400
until they all worked at the same time

1353
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,559
and so

1354
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,319
that's when we go back to the beginning

1355
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,559
of this this episode where i talk about

1356
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,800
being pulled into trances

1357
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,359
sitting on the couch mid conversation

1358
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,400
something pulls me into another realm

1359
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:28,640
and tries to communicate with me

1360
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:31,119
i can't understand it it's in an ancient

1361
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,800
language and it's seven of them trying

1362
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:34,880
to talk it's it's they're flying this is

1363
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,599
insane it's insanity to try to make

1364
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,200
sense and it's like

1365
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,119
they're almost having fun

1366
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,359
with toying with me and messing with me

1367
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,520
not only did i just go into this trance

1368
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,400
but my

1369
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,240
body turns pale

1370
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:51,040
i can't breathe my heart's racing and i

1371
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,640
just

1372
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,640
i'm in this trance and my girlfriend's

1373
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:56,000
there

1374
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:57,680
are you okay what's going on i'm not

1375
00:53:03,109 --> 00:52:59,599
breathing and finally i

1376
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,119
sucked back in my body what was that

1377
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,680
and uh and it kept happening

1378
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,760
it only took a few days

1379
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,000
but when it started

1380
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,400
my health started to deteriorate

1381
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,720
i started coughing up blood

1382
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:17,040
i started hearing voices i started

1383
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,640
seeing things out of the corner of my

1384
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,839
eye

1385
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,520
we would go into public and i would try

1386
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,839
to order fast food at mcdonald's or

1387
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,920
something like that and i couldn't look

1388
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:27,440
people in their eyes because every time

1389
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,559
i looked at them there was like this

1390
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,400
heightened sense of like

1391
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,640
esp and i knew things about them and i

1392
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:34,240
knew they knew things about me and it

1393
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,920
was this shame

1394
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:37,920
and stuff that

1395
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,040
it was like something out of a movie

1396
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,720
every store we went in i felt like

1397
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,720
everybody in the entire store was

1398
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,640
looking at me it was straight

1399
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:49,200
paranoid schizophrenia

1400
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:52,880
that came upon me and um

1401
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,520
i would watch things on television

1402
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,599
and i would experience it in my in in my

1403
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,760
mind in my life

1404
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,000
every every disease that i heard if

1405
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,160
someone said a disease

1406
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,200
i immediately believed 100 that i had it

1407
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,000
and i was going to die

1408
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,680
changing the channels on television and

1409
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,119
hearing about somebody said they had

1410
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,880
testicular cancer i remember that boom

1411
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:16,240
they just hit my head wow you got it

1412
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,440
you're gonna die

1413
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,920
oh man you got brain cancer and just and

1414
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,280
it wasn't something that you can get out

1415
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,480
of your head it was like i had no

1416
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,720
control over these thoughts like these

1417
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,960
beings were implanting thoughts

1418
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:28,480
into my mind

1419
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,440
so

1420
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,760
when all of that came to a head and i'm

1421
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,040
getting pulled in these trances i'm

1422
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:35,040
coughing up blood and i'm malnourished

1423
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,040
and i'm not eating it's very bad

1424
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:41,200
that's when i hit rock bottom

1425
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,799
and i knew that a few years before

1426
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:46,559
you know i had been a christian you know

1427
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,319
i remember being at that prayer meeting

1428
00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:50,400
and that bliss and that beauty that

1429
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,920
those people were experiencing and the

1430
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,520
beauty and bliss that i experienced when

1431
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,680
that fire entered my body and and

1432
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:58,000
comfort me and and changed me and helped

1433
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,599
me and healed me and i wanted that back

1434
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,520
because i was whatever that was i was on

1435
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:03,920
the opposite spectrum

1436
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,640
of the lowest that you can go on the

1437
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:08,160
totem pole at least that's what i felt

1438
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,960
like

1439
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,240
and um

1440
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,799
after having one rough night one episode

1441
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,559
i ended up getting my girlfriend i said

1442
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:16,079
i need you to pray with me just pray for

1443
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,280
me because i feel in insanity in my mind

1444
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,520
and my spirit and my body and i'm gonna

1445
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,359
have to go to insane asylum i'm gonna go

1446
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:26,079
to a psyche psychiatric ward you know

1447
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,599
and they're gonna put me on medication

1448
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,359
like i can't if i go tell people what

1449
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:31,839
i'm experiencing it's over so she prayed

1450
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,160
with me she didn't really believe in god

1451
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,000
but she prayed that i would just feel

1452
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,760
better in my body

1453
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,480
and the next day i woke up i felt

1454
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,680
a lot better

1455
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,160
i went to our altar and

1456
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:46,079
threw everything off all of the stuff

1457
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:47,680
that was on the altars

1458
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,319
all of the posters and the bands and uh

1459
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,400
paraphernalia we had to do rituals and

1460
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,240
seance and cutting and

1461
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,000
anything that had anything to do with

1462
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,839
anything dark

1463
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,599
threw everything away all of our books

1464
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,680
just getting rid of all kinds of stuff

1465
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:04,000
um finding ways to get rid of it and my

1466
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,599
girlfriend she wakes up what are you

1467
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,280
doing i said i'm done

1468
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,520
i'm done i can't do it anymore

1469
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:11,520
um i got to get my life back right with

1470
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,480
god i cannot and um

1471
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,079
so she's panicking i'm throwing away all

1472
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,119
of our music and t-shirts and stuff and

1473
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:20,880
and she's like

1474
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,680
what am i supposed to do i say listen

1475
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:24,799
you can

1476
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:28,799
life back to

1477
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,040
you can dedicate your life to god

1478
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:33,200
and do it with me or you can go home and

1479
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:34,880
go live with your parents again i don't

1480
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,760
care i'm done i'm not gonna make it if i

1481
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,920
don't and um she's like well i don't

1482
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:41,680
believe in god i don't believe in jesus

1483
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,640
what do you want me to believe in

1484
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,160
something that i don't believe in i said

1485
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,559
listen if we can believe in the gods and

1486
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,160
the goddesses and the fairies and the

1487
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,559
moon creatures and pan and all of these

1488
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,799
idols we can believe in that we can

1489
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,720
believe in jesus

1490
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,359
if you i said give it a week

1491
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,920
and if our lives isn't 100 better within

1492
00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:01,520
a week then i'll go back and worship

1493
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,799
anything you want me to worship with

1494
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,720
bells and whistles on just because i

1495
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,119
knew i knew it was real the other stuff

1496
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,440
was was questionable i didn't know but

1497
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,440
that encounter that i had in 98 i knew

1498
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,720
that that was real intangible because i

1499
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,920
took it with me

1500
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,000
and so we we dedicated our lives to to

1501
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,559
following god and and following christ

1502
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,640
back then again it was uh september 7th

1503
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,160
of 2000

1504
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:24,960
and we we've been on that path ever

1505
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,680
since and again i was a christian

1506
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:29,359
minister i was a christian hip-hop

1507
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,319
artist for many years until

1508
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,880
um many of that's those things came full

1509
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:37,359
circle and i began to see the righteous

1510
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,280
beautiful part of it that it wasn't all

1511
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,240
this base demonic lower level lower

1512
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,720
entry stuff that there was a beauty and

1513
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,040
a spirituality that existed even within

1514
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,440
the bible because again i i approached

1515
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,680
this from that perspective and i began

1516
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,440
to see my story in that and i began to

1517
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:55,839
see the things that the disciples did

1518
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,400
and christ did and it really took my

1519
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,040
experiences to the next level so

1520
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:03,200
when all of that became real for me is

1521
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,599
when everything came to a head and so i

1522
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:07,599
ended up getting in the phone book

1523
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:10,559
back then and calling 15 churches

1524
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,200
and i left messages on all the answering

1525
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,799
machines and says hey

1526
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:16,240
i'm demon-possessed i need somebody to

1527
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,520
pray with me i need somebody to call me

1528
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,280
back i think i got demons

1529
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,440
caught about 15 churches

1530
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,359
one church called me back

1531
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:25,599
and the pastor ended up coming to meet

1532
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:26,480
with me

1533
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,960
and praying for me at my home and ended

1534
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:29,920
up

1535
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:33,200
and forth to church

1536
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,400
and uh and that's when everything

1537
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:36,400
changed for me from being in that lower

1538
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:37,359
level

1539
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,400
dark demonic side and i knew it was real

1540
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,319
i knew both sides were real i know that

1541
00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:45,040
the lower level confusing

1542
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,359
dark entities exist the poltergeists the

1543
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:48,960
ones that want to play tricks on your

1544
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,160
mind and and and leech off of your your

1545
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,240
energy and those things and also knew

1546
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,720
that the beauty of the bliss of that

1547
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,799
what we'll call the holy spirit

1548
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,799
existed as well because that was one of

1549
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,040
the first experiences that i had back in

1550
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,950
wow

1551
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,640
true secret it's quite an experience

1552
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:10,960
thank you very much for sharing that

1553
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:13,680
um so basically

1554
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,599
after all of that that you that you've

1555
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:17,280
been been through

1556
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,880
what um

1557
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,319
what was the first thing that you kind

1558
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:21,599
of started to make these other

1559
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:24,319
connections that like you said it's not

1560
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:25,680
all

1561
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:28,319
negative in that in that way that there

1562
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,200
was a um i guess purpose for everything

1563
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,200
and that if you just i guess change your

1564
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:34,799
perspective the way you look at it that

1565
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,640
you you change

1566
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,040
i guess it changes itself what would you

1567
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,200
say

1568
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,720
yeah um

1569
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,559
because coming from again from the

1570
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,559
christian perspective like

1571
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,559
you know it's a very spiritual tradition

1572
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:51,119
you know we have to look at christianity

1573
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,400
today

1574
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:54,160
as far as some of the practices that

1575
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:56,880
they continue to do um which are very

1576
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,520
ancient practices speaking in tongues

1577
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,920
rhythmic dancing singing chanting

1578
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,200
clapping

1579
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:05,760
um holding their hands up as to receive

1580
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:07,760
from a higher power so there's really

1581
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,000
this connection there so that was

1582
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,319
something that we we practiced you know

1583
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,240
and we believed in and demons we

1584
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:16,559
believed in angels but for some reason

1585
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:17,440
we

1586
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:21,520
demons than the angels you know uh

1587
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,359
everyone had a story about a demon not

1588
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,359
many people had stories about angels and

1589
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,119
so that was just kind of common ground

1590
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,200
so i would share my story in churches

1591
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:31,599
and youth groups and through my music as

1592
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:34,640
a christian evangelist but

1593
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,040
i would say it started to go deeper

1594
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:39,520
when i would kind of separate myself and

1595
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,680
and pray and fast

1596
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:43,920
and uh and ask for deeper encounters

1597
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:44,960
with god

1598
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:47,040
you know more encounters like that which

1599
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:49,440
i had when i first started and we had a

1600
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:50,400
lot

1601
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,720
that that experience of me feeling that

1602
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,400
that fire come

1603
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:56,480
upon me and within me and cleanse me out

1604
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,359
like we had the ability to

1605
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:01,119
lay hands on people and have them to

1606
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,559
receive it too so it was now

1607
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,079
transferable

1608
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,680
so it wasn't that it was just this one

1609
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:07,760
time thing we could

1610
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:11,040
get people to pray and who wanted

1611
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:13,040
to change their life or wanted an

1612
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,640
encounter with god or wanted to get

1613
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,240
their life right and they would receive

1614
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,160
that gift and that promise of the holy

1615
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,079
spirit and that became real that became

1616
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:21,920
something powerful and then we'd read

1617
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:24,160
about it in the bible like wow they did

1618
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:25,200
this too

1619
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:26,240
so

1620
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:29,760
demon casting out demons that's in the

1621
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,720
bible getting being filled with the holy

1622
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:34,799
spirit that's in the bible but then we'd

1623
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,119
keep reading there was

1624
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,040
angelic encounters that were in the

1625
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,599
bible but we didn't see much of those

1626
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:43,680
so me just withdrawing myself i began to

1627
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,400
pray and fast and ask for it and

1628
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:49,440
um ask god to give me revelation

1629
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,799
from heaven

1630
01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:52,400
so that i could teach and so that i

1631
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,839
could share

1632
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:54,960
and

1633
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:56,799
i feel like i ended up getting it but it

1634
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,680
didn't come the way that i thought most

1635
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:01,920
of it was about books that were taken

1636
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:04,960
out of the bible there was things that

1637
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:08,480
introduced me to the zodiac in the bible

1638
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,640
the constellations the mazzaroth and

1639
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,720
these things that have been under our

1640
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,480
noses the whole time within christendom

1641
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,400
but nobody teaches on them we're told

1642
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:18,160
that they're demonic but again they're

1643
01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:20,160
all of these things were in the bible so

1644
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,720
for me it really took me having to read

1645
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,200
it and find it in those scriptures

1646
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,520
and then experience it like once i read

1647
01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:29,520
it and had some kind of grid that okay

1648
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,359
this may not be demonic

1649
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,720
um

1650
01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:34,960
then i can go out and experience it so

1651
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,000
ufology was one of it it was connecting

1652
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,480
ufology to the angels now i started off

1653
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:42,880
as a christian researching ufology under

1654
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,720
all of the big

1655
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:47,280
christian ufologists who hands down

1656
01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:49,760
across the board say that it's demonic

1657
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:52,000
and i i studied that for for several

1658
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:52,960
months

1659
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,119
until i began to

1660
01:02:59,029 --> 01:02:56,880
listen maybe to coast to coast a.m and

1661
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:59,039
listen to a lot of george norian and

1662
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:01,119
some of the people he interviewed and i

1663
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:03,440
felt like many of those christians had a

1664
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,039
bias

1665
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,960
that that they approached the subject

1666
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,720
with yeah they're demonic now what and

1667
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:10,400
that's built on top of the the fact that

1668
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:12,319
they're demonic but many of the other

1669
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,520
people

1670
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,000
who i resonated with that weren't on

1671
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:18,079
christian interviews they were on

1672
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:19,920
secular stuff like coast to coast and

1673
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:22,240
podcasts like these i began to listen to

1674
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,400
them and i heard stuff that ended up

1675
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,240
resonating with me more

1676
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:28,000
um because i didn't feel like it was

1677
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:29,680
biased there was a there was a teacher

1678
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:32,720
who i found early on um a researcher by

1679
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:34,480
the name of patrick cook

1680
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,680
who has bible ufo.net

1681
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:39,440
and it was full of what i was looking

1682
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,480
for of tying those scriptures in

1683
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,200
about ufos and about aliens and the

1684
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,599
paranormal to the bible so this was

1685
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,520
thousands and thousands of web pages

1686
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,000
about the supernatural

1687
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:54,240
ufology and all of that within the bible

1688
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:55,920
but

1689
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:58,160
he differed because he was the only one

1690
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:59,280
that brought to the table from a

1691
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,960
christian perspective that

1692
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,000
these

1693
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:03,839
could be the the angels

1694
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:05,760
from the scriptures and he had all of

1695
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,880
the proof

1696
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:08,640
with it not just saying it but let me

1697
01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:10,240
teach you and show you so

1698
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,240
me having to read it and see it for

1699
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:13,920
myself

1700
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:16,000
which was huge for me and i felt like i

1701
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:18,240
was being led down that path

1702
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,520
and also

1703
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:21,680
there was a video that i found early on

1704
01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:25,200
by a guy by the name of prophet yahweh

1705
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:26,960
who

1706
01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:29,599
was interviewed by a news channel

1707
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:30,880
and ended up

1708
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:33,680
claiming that he could summon ufos

1709
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:35,839
on command with the use of the hebrew

1710
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,920
version of the holy bible and when i

1711
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,440
heard this i was like i

1712
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:40,799
i gotta check this out we've got

1713
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,960
summoning ufos what's this i watch the

1714
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,559
video he goes into

1715
01:04:47,910 --> 01:04:46,880
an open field he's got news crews with

1716
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:47,920
him

1717
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,480
he lifts his hands up to the sky

1718
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:52,480
and he says oh yahweh

1719
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,200
so that these people don't think that

1720
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,359
i'm crazy

1721
01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:59,680
show me one of your chariots show me one

1722
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,839
of your messengers your messengers of

1723
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,839
light so that these people may see and

1724
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,839
that they may know and they may believe

1725
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:07,440
and so then they pan up and they look

1726
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,480
around

1727
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:10,079
and finally

1728
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,680
they see

1729
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:12,960
an orb

1730
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:15,599
in the sky this light during the day

1731
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,160
that's reflecting the light from the sun

1732
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,760
it seems like something

1733
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:21,359
picks up on camera

1734
01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:22,799
and all of the news reporters it

1735
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,799
startles them wow it's wow it really

1736
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:27,119
worked and he's like hallelujah bless

1737
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:29,280
bless you yahweh thank you for the

1738
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:31,359
sightings thank you for this encounter

1739
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,799
and he's thanking god for it and all of

1740
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:36,720
the research and study that i was doing

1741
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,960
within the scriptures and then

1742
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:41,599
to see that video

1743
01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:43,200
and then he's talking about the chariots

1744
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:45,920
of fire the chariots which are the

1745
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,599
vehicles

1746
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,640
in the holy bible the the the chariots

1747
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:52,960
of fire the cloud appear as a cloud by

1748
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,559
day and a fire

1749
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,400
by night so when i

1750
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:57,839
seen that

1751
01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:59,280
then

1752
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:01,039
things began to

1753
01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,640
to really shift for me because i began

1754
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,400
to go out by myself

1755
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,480
and spend hours and hours and hours

1756
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,640
under the stars the morning sky the

1757
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,240
night sky

1758
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,799
anytime that i could even a a cloudy

1759
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,319
night where you couldn't see anything

1760
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,559
i'm trying to go out there and ask for a

1761
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,799
sighting i'm trying to

1762
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:21,359
to facilitate something similar to what

1763
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:23,359
i've seen in that that video and then i

1764
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:25,280
would find other people's work james

1765
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:26,640
gilliland

1766
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,440
from east city ranch and he had videos

1767
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:31,039
and he was doing it

1768
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:34,400
and dr stephen greer

1769
01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:36,880
with the ce5 initiative oh wow ce5

1770
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:38,480
what's this yeah we're doing something

1771
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:39,680
similar we're going out and making

1772
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,079
contact with our space brothers in this

1773
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:44,240
and then it started happening for me

1774
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,839
i began to go out lift my hands

1775
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:49,680
and ask for a sighting and it would take

1776
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:52,960
hours days but finally

1777
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:55,200
something happened something popped

1778
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:58,000
and i began to make contact and um

1779
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,839
with

1780
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:01,359
beautiful benevolent

1781
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,200
energies that that i would call the

1782
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:05,520
angels i would i would be specific with

1783
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:06,480
it

1784
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:08,480
you know that's god i would ask yahweh

1785
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,680
much like prophet yahweh did of to see a

1786
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:14,160
sighting the cherubim the the the

1787
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,240
seraphim and i began to do word studies

1788
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,640
what what what are these things

1789
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,559
and

1790
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,559
they're fire they're the the beings that

1791
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:24,319
are made out of fire that are in the

1792
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:26,960
bible and literally seraphim means the

1793
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:28,559
fiery serpents

1794
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,640
who the the the keepers of god's

1795
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:32,559
knowledge and they look like fire and we

1796
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:34,480
read enoch and we read the bible and

1797
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:36,960
then stuff starts making sense

1798
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,720
and i begin to see things that just blew

1799
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:39,760
my mind

1800
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:43,039
i began to see portals open up and and

1801
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:44,720
beings traveling in and out of them and

1802
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,440
going into stars and um

1803
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:49,440
lights flying across the sky really fast

1804
01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:51,599
and then stopping on a dime

1805
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,839
lights flying across the sky

1806
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:56,079
touching a star what seemed to be a star

1807
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:58,000
but they were trading spaces with it

1808
01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,200
there was something that was parked

1809
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,920
there that we thought was was a star

1810
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,920
and a ship or whatever this light was

1811
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,200
comes and

1812
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,839
takes over and mans its post and then it

1813
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,200
flies off

1814
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:11,359
i've seen fleets of what we're called

1815
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,880
ufos or or these beings in the sky

1816
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,319
and so once you start having those

1817
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:18,640
encounters and then you find scriptures

1818
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:20,080
to back it up

1819
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:21,759
because for me as long as it was in the

1820
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:24,319
bible like i'm cool with it as long as i

1821
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:25,679
can see it then i know that they're good

1822
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:26,560
guys

1823
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:29,199
because i have a i have a history

1824
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,040
of trying to contact entities and ended

1825
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,960
up getting the lower level bad guys that

1826
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:35,600
were out there and and stuff exists for

1827
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,400
sure

1828
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,480
so i understood that the life that i was

1829
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:39,520
living

1830
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:41,040
and

1831
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:44,560
connection

1832
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:47,040
with what i would call god

1833
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:48,319
and uh

1834
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,600
eventually those things started

1835
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,359
happening and i began to to see things

1836
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:53,040
that were similar to all of those videos

1837
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,480
that i had watched and the things that i

1838
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:56,400
had wanted to see and it changed

1839
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:57,440
everything

1840
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,359
real um those scriptures became real

1841
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,960
about them traveling scriptures about

1842
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:04,400
them traveling back and forth from

1843
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,600
heaven to earth

1844
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:07,359
and carrying messages and all of that

1845
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,040
and then i got i feel like i got to see

1846
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:11,440
it you know and i and i began to put it

1847
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:13,440
in my music i began to do

1848
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,640
write rap songs spiritual hip-hop songs

1849
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,480
about those encounters

1850
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,199
the feelings the euphoria how to repeat

1851
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,239
it and all of that and um and it really

1852
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:26,319
took my spirituality to the next level i

1853
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:27,759
feel like it made me a better person

1854
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:29,359
there was an awe and a wonder and a

1855
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:32,480
majesty i feel like was imparted to me

1856
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,880
but when those things shifted was

1857
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,040
definitely when all of that stuff

1858
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,759
started happening for me um early on and

1859
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,279
that was around

1860
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:43,759
2010 11 12

1861
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:45,839
in those years that i took all of this

1862
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,880
very seriously and was seen so many

1863
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,159
bizarre

1864
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:52,080
things and and people would say be

1865
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,279
careful

1866
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:54,880
could be demons man you could get

1867
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:57,760
abducted you could go out there

1868
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,239
ask for a sighting and they come and

1869
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,560
kidnap you and take you off world and

1870
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,320
you're gone you know so there's that

1871
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,080
fear they're trying to implant but then

1872
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,000
i would read scriptures

1873
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:10,000
there's a scripture on like prayer it

1874
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,880
says

1875
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:11,920
that

1876
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,360
if you ask your heavenly father

1877
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,280
for a fish

1878
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:18,880
he's not going to give you a serpent

1879
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,719
he's not going to give you a snake if

1880
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:23,120
you ask your heavenly father for

1881
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,800
a loaf of bread

1882
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,640
he's not going to give you a stone and

1883
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:28,320
play a trick on you

1884
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:30,159
so the analogy there for me with this

1885
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:32,080
prayer is like if i with a pure heart

1886
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,360
and pure motives ask god the creator of

1887
01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:38,080
all things whatever that is

1888
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,199
for

1889
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,280
an encounter with one of his angels just

1890
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:43,760
let me see him let him fly by and and

1891
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,960
let me just

1892
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,640
catch a glimpse

1893
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,159
and um

1894
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:49,600
i took that with me

1895
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:50,560
that

1896
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:54,560
out all fear

1897
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:57,760
and if i asked for an angel a demon

1898
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,560
wouldn't show up in its disguise doesn't

1899
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:02,320
it it doesn't work that way

1900
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:04,320
and so again that's when everything

1901
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,280
changed for me and

1902
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,440
everything in my life took a turn

1903
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:11,120
for the better but it was definitely an

1904
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,880
awakening there was some it was a

1905
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:14,400
process but

1906
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:15,600
um

1907
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:17,120
talk about these big things these big

1908
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:18,719
monumental moments in my life but that

1909
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:19,440
was

1910
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,880
for sure one of the biggest as well

1911
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:24,480
you know it's interesting you mentioned

1912
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,640
that time period of 2010 11 and 12

1913
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:30,880
not just for myself but several other

1914
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:33,440
people that i've talked to uh privately

1915
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:36,159
you know that was kind of those big

1916
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,719
years where big things were happening so

1917
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:40,480
it's interesting that just to also hear

1918
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,040
you say that um i have actually several

1919
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,560
things i want to ask you about and i

1920
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,040
wish i i need to start getting more in

1921
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:49,040
the habit of keeping a

1922
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,719
pen and paper here so i can write it

1923
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:52,880
down real quick i can't use any of the

1924
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,280
this electronics more efficiently so

1925
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,679
just to clarify something um just out of

1926
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,520
curiosity because it was a very uh

1927
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,280
interesting you know story as you were

1928
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,280
telling it whatever happened with the

1929
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,440
girlfriend uh because you said did you

1930
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,360
ask her to give her that week and if you

1931
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:09,040
can just very shortly go into that and i

1932
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:10,880
have some other questions for you

1933
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:14,719
yeah well we've been um happily married

1934
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,520
for 20 years

1935
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:18,719
and

1936
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,719
yeah she ended up having an encounter we

1937
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:22,880
uh you know she made that that decision

1938
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,760
to uh so come and give it a shot

1939
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,440
and

1940
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,600
very interestingly

1941
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:31,600
you know i said let's give it a week

1942
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:34,000
and so we had a lot of crazy things

1943
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:35,920
going on in our life right if you're in

1944
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:37,840
that realm

1945
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:39,199
um

1946
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:40,719
we had a lot of prayer requests i'll say

1947
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,520
that

1948
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:43,199
so we ended up writing

1949
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:45,040
we heard this write your prayer requests

1950
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:47,360
down make them known unto god

1951
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:48,960
and

1952
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,080
things down i think it was

1953
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:56,239
that we needed and and it was specific

1954
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,520
things to us

1955
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,760
all we wanted to relocate back to

1956
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:01,280
alabama

1957
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:02,560
we wanted

1958
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:05,199
new christian friends because

1959
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,719
we went out and tried to hang out with

1960
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,480
the same people

1961
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:10,640
and we picked up a guy

1962
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,640
and he got in the back seat

1963
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,719
and he's fidgeting around he pulls out a

1964
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,400
knife he's got a steak knife and he

1965
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:18,159
pulls it out of his pants and i'm like

1966
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,360
hey what are you what are you doing with

1967
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:20,400
that

1968
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,000
oh i can't trust anybody man i can't

1969
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:24,159
trust nobody can't trust anybody i said

1970
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:25,120
okay

1971
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:26,640
so we hang out for a little bit but hey

1972
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,000
we gotta take this guy home like i don't

1973
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,199
feel comfortable anymore around him so

1974
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,280
we asked to be relocated back to alabama

1975
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:36,000
we asked for christian friends we asked

1976
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,800
for

1977
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,199
uh my wife to have a job

1978
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,760
in alabama we asked for our car to be

1979
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:43,920
fixed our car was

1980
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:47,600
as soon as you crank it the rpms go up

1981
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,920
to like 80 miles an hour so you had to

1982
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,239
hold the brake the car was jacked we

1983
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:54,000
took it to repairman they didn't know

1984
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,679
what's wrong with it my granny tried to

1985
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:57,920
pay for it and help us and nothing would

1986
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:58,960
work

1987
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:01,920
and so we had all of these these prayers

1988
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,840
um that we asked for

1989
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,199
and

1990
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,520
for about a week you know we we

1991
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,120
were going to church there

1992
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,360
uh in in louisiana and getting plugged

1993
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:12,880
in with those guys going to bible study

1994
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,320
and stuff but i'll tell you what for me

1995
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:16,239
it was still hard like i was still in

1996
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:17,600
between even though like there was so

1997
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,199
much peace that came to me instantly

1998
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:23,840
it was a hard road it did it wasn't hey

1999
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:26,640
everything's good it was like but

2000
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:28,320
there was so much work to be done you

2001
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,040
know my mind was trained a certain way

2002
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,199
you know to be paranoid and to be

2003
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,880
suspicious and to

2004
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,400
and to hear

2005
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,400
things while people are talking and i'm

2006
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,080
hearing a different conversation you

2007
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:42,560
know so it was a long long process but

2008
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,440
anyway

2009
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:44,880
we prayed for those things and

2010
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,840
miraculously i believe god answered

2011
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:49,520
every single one of them

2012
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,360
um but we wanted to relocate

2013
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:55,199
back to alabama but we didn't even have

2014
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:56,560
gas money

2015
01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:58,800
to get there and the car was messed up

2016
01:15:02,630 --> 01:15:01,760
it probably wouldn't even make it

2017
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,640
so

2018
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:05,040
my wife talk girlfriend at the time

2019
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,560
talks to her

2020
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:08,719
um grandmother and says hey we want to

2021
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:11,280
come visit and want to get mom and dad

2022
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:13,040
to look at the car maybe they can know

2023
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:14,560
what's wrong with it and all this and we

2024
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:16,239
just want to come see y'all we don't

2025
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,199
have the money and she said aaron

2026
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:21,920
uh look under the spare tire

2027
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,360
and in the little

2028
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:24,960
cubby compartment

2029
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:26,080
in the

2030
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:30,080
i put

2031
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,760
it was twenty dollars was twenty dollars

2032
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:34,320
was a tank of gas back in back then

2033
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,679
there's twenty dollars in there and

2034
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,280
that'll fill your car up for you to get

2035
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,960
home just i put that there just in case

2036
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:40,800
you ever needed to get home you would

2037
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:43,840
have gas money so before any of this

2038
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:45,760
happened

2039
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:51,990
synchronistically i believe put that

2040
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:54,080
there so boom there's our gas money so

2041
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:55,360
now we don't have to look for money we

2042
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,840
have to siphon gas or nothing well okay

2043
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,120
let's go so

2044
01:16:02,950 --> 01:16:01,040
now we got to try to get the car back so

2045
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,960
we're driving

2046
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,960
on the interstate

2047
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,360
and um

2048
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,440
the car is doing 80 and you got to ride

2049
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,960
the brake if it tries to go over you

2050
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:13,040
know and it you going through town and

2051
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:14,239
traffic

2052
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:15,520
get on the interstate as quick as you

2053
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:17,920
can you know but we made it we made it

2054
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:19,760
back so we end up getting there and we

2055
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,320
end up going to my old church and we go

2056
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:24,640
to the church and we get plugged in and

2057
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:27,520
a bunch of young people there who

2058
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:30,480
um wanted to hang out with us

2059
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:31,440
and

2060
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:32,560
um

2061
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,920
so we ended up having all these

2062
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,760
christian friends like

2063
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:37,679
15 friends out of nowhere who we hung

2064
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,719
out with every day and they were all

2065
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:40,640
christians we have prayer meetings and

2066
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,239
stuff while we're in town in alabama

2067
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:44,640
visiting you know my wife prayed for

2068
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,159
this job

2069
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,320
she walks into her old job just to say

2070
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,480
hey just to see everybody because it's

2071
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,320
been several months she's been in

2072
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,960
louisiana she walks into the front door

2073
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,719
to go see him and surprise him and as

2074
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:58,320
soon as they lay eyes on her her old

2075
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,760
boss says hey aaron you want your old

2076
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,360
job back

2077
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:02,800
uh

2078
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,760
yeah

2079
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,040
actually i do

2080
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:07,040
okay you start tomorrow it's like what

2081
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,800
hey there's no good to see you it's been

2082
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:10,880
a while so she walks in and magically

2083
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,600
walks right back into that job that was

2084
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,440
provisioned and

2085
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,840
her uh mom and dad end up paying for the

2086
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:19,520
car to be fixed and they knew what was

2087
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,480
wrong with it and they ended up

2088
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,159
um because we weren't married at the

2089
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,920
time they weren't going to let us stay

2090
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:27,920
together in in their home so they ended

2091
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:31,600
up writing us a a

2092
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,760
hotel for just a couple days

2093
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:35,040
and he said you know what if you guys

2094
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:36,320
want to stay longer until the car gets

2095
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:37,600
all the way fixed we'll let you borrow

2096
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:38,800
our truck

2097
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,360
and we'll rent or we'll buy a little

2098
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:43,440
camper trailer

2099
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:46,640
for you guys to stay to stay in um while

2100
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,679
you're here

2101
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:49,520
so like we just had

2102
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,400
all of these things that we asked for we

2103
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:54,000
prayed for and i feel like god was

2104
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,440
showing himself

2105
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:58,080
to me and to my wife who all of this was

2106
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,360
brand new she hadn't had those

2107
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:01,440
encounters that i had early on

2108
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:03,520
and it was something that built her

2109
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,600
faith to know that hey

2110
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:07,920
somebody or something's listening when

2111
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,040
we talk

2112
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,440
when we align ourselves to do right and

2113
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,280
to get on this straight and narrow path

2114
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:15,760
and when we ask for things that that it

2115
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:17,520
shall be given unto you

2116
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:19,840
and uh and we felt loved and and then

2117
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:21,679
she ended up having an encounter too

2118
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,000
with the holy spirit like i did

2119
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,520
and um

2120
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:27,199
we were sitting at home

2121
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,640
uh watching

2122
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,960
preaching on tv it was rod parsley back

2123
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:32,320
in 2000

2124
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,440
and they were having like this

2125
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:34,960
praise-a-thon kind of thing

2126
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,520
old-fashioned church service on tv kind

2127
01:18:41,830 --> 01:18:39,199
of thing and they began to play the

2128
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:41,840
music and begin to

2129
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:44,080
the tambourines and stuff and we just

2130
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,199
felt this

2131
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,640
we were getting into it in this little

2132
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,239
unction and we just got up and started

2133
01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:50,480
dancing in our living room and it was

2134
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:52,640
this beautiful joy that filled the room

2135
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,880
and it was a supernatural encounter that

2136
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:56,640
we both got to experience together and

2137
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:58,320
that was her first time

2138
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,800
tangibly feeling the presence

2139
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,280
of love the presence of the holy spirit

2140
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:05,679
and so all of those things came to a

2141
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:06,480
head

2142
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,679
to uh

2143
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,520
you know for us to be where we are today

2144
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:11,360
but it was those foundational things

2145
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:14,560
that i think were pivotal and and

2146
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:16,480
pillars in our life and in our in our

2147
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,640
faith

2148
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:20,480
it's a that's beautiful i'm glad it

2149
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:22,560
worked out in that way and and just

2150
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:25,120
makes that much more of a richer life

2151
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:27,280
um yeah there's

2152
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:29,520
well i was thinking if uh if you're okay

2153
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,560
with it uh to for us to then go into q a

2154
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,719
but before we do that i have just some

2155
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:36,960
quick announcement to everyone and then

2156
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,600
another question that will then of you

2157
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:41,360
know it's a chance to send in the

2158
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:43,840
questions uh to you uh what do you what

2159
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:45,120
do you think would you be up for that

2160
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:46,080
now

2161
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:49,360
i'm down brother okay good deal so

2162
01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:52,400
we're going to go into questions uh uh

2163
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,360
here very soon i i will then give you uh

2164
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,000
some time to either log into telegram to

2165
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:00,800
ask the question yourself uh over voice

2166
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,840
or please use uh shift eight also three

2167
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:06,320
stars and then a question after so it

2168
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:09,280
pops out easier in the chat uh for me

2169
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:11,120
and um also

2170
01:20:16,629 --> 01:20:14,239
um anything i could uh basically

2171
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,639
anything that trueseeker offers is all

2172
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:18,480
in description below those that what you

2173
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:20,400
follow often know that for those that

2174
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:23,679
don't uh under every video uh whether it

2175
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:26,400
would be um the channel the websites

2176
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,800
anything else about truth seeker is in

2177
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:31,120
the description so please check it out

2178
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:31,920
and

2179
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:34,800
so the question i have for you was

2180
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:36,239
regarding your book

2181
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,639
and one of the forwards was jordan

2182
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:40,320
maxwell i meant to ask you earlier when

2183
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:41,840
you were talking about listening to

2184
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,120
other people um then there's also a

2185
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:48,320
basically a song you you also recorded

2186
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,400
and it's up on your channel as well that

2187
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,560
has one of some of the

2188
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:53,520
lyrics

2189
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:55,520
as jordan maxwell is talking can you

2190
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:57,760
maybe just talk a little bit about

2191
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,719
maybe if there is such a if

2192
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,320
i would assume that jordan maxwell was

2193
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:04,000
an influence on you in some way as well

2194
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:05,360
if maybe if you could speak a little bit

2195
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,120
about that

2196
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,199
yeah for sure for sure yeah i was

2197
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:11,440
blessed to um have him be able to write

2198
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:14,480
the forward to my book and um

2199
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:16,320
he means a lot to me jordan masterful

2200
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,320
means a lot to me again early on on on

2201
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,080
that research you know

2202
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:22,400
i found his work early on and project

2203
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,159
camelot and those guys and his

2204
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:25,920
interviews on there then his lectures

2205
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:26,639
and

2206
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,600
different perspective he would he would

2207
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:31,199
give you a different lens and a lot of

2208
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:32,719
it was hard to chew especially coming

2209
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:34,960
from a religious

2210
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,320
uh background

2211
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:37,360
um

2212
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:38,239
but

2213
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:39,679
so he had so much

2214
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,040
so many beautiful things that he brought

2215
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:43,199
to the table again with the maserath and

2216
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:43,920
with

2217
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:46,159
the zodiac in the bible in astrology and

2218
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:47,360
stuff so

2219
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,400
um

2220
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,560
i reached out i started my own podcast

2221
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,320
after listening to

2222
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,159
um

2223
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:56,320
hours and hours and hours of lectures

2224
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,679
and hours of

2225
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,239
of radio shows and coast to coast and so

2226
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,520
many

2227
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:03,280
interviews with people

2228
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:05,520
um i had my own questions because i

2229
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:07,280
would listen to george nori who i have

2230
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,679
so much respect for so much love for but

2231
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:10,880
then

2232
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,040
somebody would say something

2233
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:14,960
and then they would change the subject

2234
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,159
and i'm like

2235
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:18,080
you got to ask them about that like what

2236
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:20,080
did the what did the alien look like

2237
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,000
what did the presence look like because

2238
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:24,239
i've seen something similar and i'm

2239
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:26,000
trying to make sense of it you know so i

2240
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:28,080
had as a listener i have had all these

2241
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,199
questions you know so i started my own

2242
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:33,360
radio show back in the day we didn't we

2243
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,880
didn't call them podcasts but this is

2244
01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:36,239
2010

2245
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:37,360
and uh

2246
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,960
i i uh

2247
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:41,280
ended up having jordan maxwell on a few

2248
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:42,880
years later you know listening to all of

2249
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:45,600
his his stuff and and quite literally

2250
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:47,760
the people that i heard on coast to

2251
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:50,480
coast that that i had questions for i

2252
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:51,760
would write down questions while

2253
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:54,000
listening to coast to coast

2254
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:56,000
and then i would say hey will you come

2255
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:58,000
on my my show i have i'd love to

2256
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:59,280
interview you and they'll say sure

2257
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:01,120
they'll come on wow this guy jordan

2258
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:03,440
maxwell just said yes to me and

2259
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:05,280
and so i got to have him on and just

2260
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,080
pick his brain for like two hours and

2261
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:10,159
and uh we built a relationship after

2262
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:11,920
that and

2263
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,920
um

2264
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,400
he he would he would talk to me

2265
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:18,639
off camera you know and share things

2266
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,440
with me and and encourage me and i got

2267
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:23,760
to still you know roll questions off of

2268
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,159
him that i had that were hard and

2269
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:28,080
um trying to make sense of things and

2270
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:29,679
and there was a

2271
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:34,320
it wasn't easy making that shift from

2272
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,600
a regular

2273
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,600
christian minister to one who is going

2274
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,600
to now talk about

2275
01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:41,440
ufology the one who's now going to talk

2276
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,440
about meditation and the third eye and

2277
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:45,520
all of these things that i that i talk

2278
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:46,960
about

2279
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:49,440
hidden mysteries within the bible

2280
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:50,239
um

2281
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,840
because those people were

2282
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:53,440
you know they they now saw me as an

2283
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,320
enemy

2284
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,000
you know now i'm talking about astrology

2285
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,080
and orion in the bible and the pleiades

2286
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,239
and all of these starships in the bible

2287
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:02,080
and beings that we can contact and the

2288
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:04,000
ancestors are making contact in the

2289
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:05,120
bible but

2290
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,880
so it was very hard for me

2291
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:08,239
to really uh

2292
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:09,280
embrace

2293
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,440
i had to pick one

2294
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:13,440
and it was like you can't do both part

2295
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,400
of me it was familiar to to remain

2296
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:18,159
a christian minister to remain a

2297
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:20,400
christian rapper there was money in it

2298
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:21,760
there was

2299
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:24,239
you know so many friends

2300
01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:27,360
and uh but if i go in this route

2301
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:29,360
you know they're gonna give up on me and

2302
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,639
and they did

2303
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:32,159
they really did and so that was very

2304
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,199
hard on me and so to have somebody like

2305
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:37,199
jordan maxwell in my life that i could

2306
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:39,600
tell him those things to

2307
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:41,360
and he just you know

2308
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:43,600
you know speak clarity to me

2309
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,760
because i would i was going

2310
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,520
back and forth every day about what the

2311
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,840
future held and what ministry looked

2312
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,320
like now because i'm a minister

2313
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:54,320
you know i'm a christian and to have

2314
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,840
people tell me that i'm not and people

2315
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:58,320
call me a satanist they say i went back

2316
01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:00,800
to the same stuff i came out of you know

2317
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:02,639
making pacts with demons in it they

2318
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:05,520
think i'm still doing that you know

2319
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:08,000
much of the terminology is very similar

2320
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:11,199
portals and beings energy you know and

2321
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,400
so

2322
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:14,159
all of those people who once embraced me

2323
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,520
now forsook me and my faith and my my

2324
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,280
devotion to god into christ never

2325
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:21,520
changed it actually got deeper but to

2326
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:23,120
have all of those people forsake me it

2327
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:24,639
was very hard

2328
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:26,800
very hard to to get clear and i went

2329
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:28,639
back and forth for months maybe even

2330
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,280
years until i got fully clear

2331
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:33,280
on who i was

2332
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:34,719
and what that looked like and i didn't

2333
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:36,639
have to fit into any boxes but the whole

2334
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:39,120
time jordan maxwell was there

2335
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:40,159
and

2336
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,000
remember at a pivotal moment of me

2337
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:46,000
thinking like yeah i'm just gonna maybe

2338
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,760
do the christian thing and just not talk

2339
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,600
about any of this stuff

2340
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,280
i used to beg god to take it away from

2341
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:53,360
me like just in case it is demonic like

2342
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,760
did you open up another door you know

2343
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:57,600
and it in the passions would never leave

2344
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,760
they they became more intense and and

2345
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:01,440
then there would be confirmation and

2346
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:03,520
things in the bible and it just got more

2347
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:04,159
and

2348
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:07,199
down this path

2349
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:09,199
and all the while jordan maxwell's like

2350
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:10,480
listen

2351
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:12,080
you're trying to help people you're

2352
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:13,679
following your truth you're following

2353
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:14,719
your bliss

2354
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:16,320
and these people are calling you a devil

2355
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:17,840
worshiper

2356
01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:19,360
and he would just speak

2357
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,840
sense into me so i'm thankful for his

2358
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,520
work and i've been able to interview him

2359
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:24,239
and

2360
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:28,960
we're friends you know um

2361
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:30,800
and and i i'm so thankful that he

2362
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:32,639
endorses my work and i want to endorse

2363
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:33,600
his

2364
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,120
you know i want to endorse i want to put

2365
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:37,199
his name on it i want to sample his his

2366
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:41,040
lectures and and turn people on to

2367
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,400
um everything that inspired me

2368
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,719
and give credit where credit is due so

2369
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:48,560
that i don't act like i came up with any

2370
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:51,360
of this stuff maybe you know even

2371
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:53,360
there obviously you put your own spin on

2372
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:55,760
it and there's new revelation but

2373
01:26:59,590 --> 01:26:57,120
you know a lot of people are taking

2374
01:27:02,390 --> 01:26:59,600
credit for a lot of these guys

2375
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,400
hard work who stuck their neck out there

2376
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,040
uh when it wasn't popular and

2377
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,280
and then now they opened up for a realm

2378
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:09,760
for me and you to freely talk about this

2379
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:10,719
stuff

2380
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:13,280
and be able to do this in in

2381
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:14,080
in

2382
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:18,880
joy maxwell means means the world to me

2383
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:23,669
well thank you thank you very much uh

2384
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:26,400
for speaking to that so

2385
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:29,120
as we have questions coming in so first

2386
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:30,080
one

2387
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:32,800
uh i had uh crypto

2388
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,440
crypto media raised his hand so crypto

2389
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:37,199
you're unmuted a mute yourself and you

2390
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,400
should be able to ask a question

2391
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,000
howdy true seeker

2392
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,400
um i i had a question um

2393
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:46,239
you kind of already started to answer it

2394
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,000
and i was really glad to hear that you

2395
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:49,920
know i think praying with someone to

2396
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:51,760
make sure that you are clean i i call

2397
01:27:55,510 --> 01:27:54,000
like a delousing you know just kind of

2398
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:55,520
making sure

2399
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:58,159
everything's gone uh maybe from

2400
01:28:01,669 --> 01:28:00,159
something that happened in the past and

2401
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:01,679
uh

2402
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:05,920
feel like i'm being called to lay on a

2403
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,320
table for a chakra cleansing for double

2404
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,960
checking but anything else you recommend

2405
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,920
for um you know cleaning up uh

2406
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:16,560
bodyweight

2407
01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:17,920
question crypto

2408
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,320
yeah man um thank you for the question

2409
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:22,400
and uh and and and and thank you for

2410
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:24,159
being a um

2411
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,400
you know a uh member in this tribe in

2412
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:28,080
this in this community i listen to this

2413
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:30,080
podcast a lot and i hear you call in and

2414
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:31,600
ask questions and chime in so thank you

2415
01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:32,719
for that too

2416
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:34,239
just just know that

2417
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,880
that god has a plan for you man

2418
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:39,040
beautiful work for you to do and that

2419
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,800
only you can do

2420
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,800
that's the thing to get clear on

2421
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:44,719
is that only only you can do and then

2422
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:46,080
and i had to get clear on that with my

2423
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:47,840
story that it's different it's not going

2424
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:49,679
to look like everybody else

2425
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:51,280
it may look a little bit like this in a

2426
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,639
little bit like that so i just want to

2427
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:55,120
impart that to you to get clear

2428
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:57,840
on on who you are and and don't think

2429
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:59,920
that it has to fit in any box and

2430
01:29:02,229 --> 01:29:01,280
whatever you bring to the table and do

2431
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,239
it so

2432
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:04,560
yeah to get to check the motives it is a

2433
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,159
it is a daily thing

2434
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:08,880
and i do think that spirituality and

2435
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:10,719
mindfulness

2436
01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:13,040
and chakra clearings and cleansings and

2437
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:15,120
and meditations all of that really helps

2438
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,239
us to be

2439
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:18,400
in touch with our spirit

2440
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:19,199
and

2441
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:23,440
within from the heart space that's still

2442
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:26,000
small voice that'll let us know when

2443
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,440
we're trying our best and we're trying

2444
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:30,239
to get into alignment it's a process

2445
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,199
and so enjoy the process

2446
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:34,800
and

2447
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:35,760
as you

2448
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:38,560
as layers of an onion when you get past

2449
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,840
one thing

2450
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:41,600
and you let it go

2451
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,840
and you make peace with your past you

2452
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:45,600
make peace with your parents you make

2453
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:48,000
peace with your enemies

2454
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:50,000
that's how you release and those chords

2455
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:51,679
of attachment just come out of you did

2456
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,040
just come out of you

2457
01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:54,800
more meditation more prayer more

2458
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,239
devotion more

2459
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,239
contemplation

2460
01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:00,239
and it will illuminate

2461
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:02,960
with the light of god more areas in your

2462
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:03,840
life

2463
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:06,960
that you didn't see before so it's like

2464
01:30:10,709 --> 01:30:09,280
if you have a

2465
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,719
a rock

2466
01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:12,400
and you pick that rock up and there's a

2467
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:13,360
bunch of

2468
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:15,280
beetles and bugs and things creeping

2469
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:17,520
things under and they all scurry off

2470
01:30:25,990 --> 01:30:23,430
the light

2471
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:26,000
if the scripture says if you walk in the

2472
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:28,080
light that there will be no darkness

2473
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,199
within you

2474
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:31,199
so having your deeds

2475
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:34,960
open before god before the consciousness

2476
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:37,600
that that is connect connects all of us

2477
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,440
that created all of us

2478
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,440
that is a friend

2479
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:43,679
and that will commune and wants good for

2480
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:45,520
you once you understand that you get

2481
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:52,950
the creator of everything of the demons

2482
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:55,600
of the angels of the beatles

2483
01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,480
of me

2484
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:58,159
you know it's created everything and it

2485
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:59,040
will

2486
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:00,400
you you'll see that everything's

2487
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:03,600
connected and when you do that

2488
01:31:08,310 --> 01:31:05,920
those layers begin to just begin to peel

2489
01:31:10,390 --> 01:31:08,320
back and peel back and peel back

2490
01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:10,400
the reason so

2491
01:31:13,590 --> 01:31:12,000
is because

2492
01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:13,600
there's things

2493
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:16,239
in the earth school the levels as you

2494
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:18,400
graduate and you move to higher levels

2495
01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:20,000
in density and you get lighter and

2496
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:22,239
lighter and you begin to welcome other

2497
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:23,679
beings who are

2498
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:26,320
higher vibrational and let go of the

2499
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:28,880
things we did as a child the scripture

2500
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:31,199
says that when i was a child i thought

2501
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:34,000
as a child i acted as a child but as i

2502
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:36,080
matured and became a man i put away

2503
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:37,760
childish things

2504
01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:40,800
and so as we learn from our mistakes

2505
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:44,800
as we learn from experience

2506
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,760
and

2507
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:47,520
we just move forward

2508
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:50,080
we're able to

2509
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:56,390
and be illuminated to different things

2510
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,560
that are going to

2511
01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:00,719
hinder us

2512
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:03,440
from that ascension

2513
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:05,280
from ascending higher from going to the

2514
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:07,199
next level because if you're too heavy

2515
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:08,480
if you're carrying all this weight and

2516
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:09,920
all this baggage you can't go to the

2517
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,600
higher levels there's things that you

2518
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:13,440
have to learn by those teachers their

2519
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:15,120
angels their demons

2520
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:16,639
they're your parents

2521
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:18,400
spirit speaks through everything and you

2522
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:19,920
have to be the one who can listen and

2523
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,719
hear

2524
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:22,639
so as you're doing each of those things

2525
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,320
that you're doing right now the things

2526
01:32:30,149 --> 01:32:26,880
that you know to do it's going to reveal

2527
01:32:32,149 --> 01:32:30,159
more and that is a lifelong pursuit

2528
01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:32,159
don't think that inwardly that you're

2529
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:34,239
not worthy don't think that you it's

2530
01:32:38,070 --> 01:32:36,080
going to be a long process until you

2531
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:38,080
have those desires that you feel are

2532
01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:39,440
within you that are not going to come

2533
01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:41,600
out once you as long as you're conscious

2534
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:43,840
of it and you're doing that inner work

2535
01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:45,920
everything is going to unfold for you

2536
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:48,000
your path will be laid out before you as

2537
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:49,920
one of the chosen ones and there's so

2538
01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:52,000
many people who are testifying to that

2539
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:53,280
and uh and we're being guided we're

2540
01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:54,800
being taught

2541
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:57,840
from beyond the grave from beyond the

2542
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,560
stars if you will there's so many um

2543
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:02,080
even though we talked about lower level

2544
01:33:05,590 --> 01:33:03,440
negative entities i think they're

2545
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:05,600
rooting for you man

2546
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:07,120
i think the lower level guys are saying

2547
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:08,560
hey man i hope i never have to see you

2548
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:10,719
again you know if you go to

2549
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:13,199
you know the principal's office

2550
01:33:18,229 --> 01:33:16,480
and you get a paddling as a adolescence

2551
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:18,239
it hurts

2552
01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:19,840
might cry

2553
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:22,400
you soar for a couple days hey

2554
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:23,600
i don't want to see you in my office

2555
01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:25,280
again all right

2556
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:26,320
you won't

2557
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:28,239
listen that's tough love that's a tough

2558
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:31,040
lesson that was a hard lesson learned

2559
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,960
but what about the kids who always keep

2560
01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:34,400
coming back

2561
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:36,560
the kids are there every week they never

2562
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:38,560
learn from their mistakes they never

2563
01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:40,880
bring the light into that dark place

2564
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,440
they never incorporated the light

2565
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:45,600
they're always in this shroud of

2566
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:47,600
darkness committing the same things over

2567
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:49,040
and over

2568
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:53,199
so just know that everything is set up

2569
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:55,520
for your good and what seemed like a

2570
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:57,440
curse would seem like that thing that

2571
01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,520
was going to take you out would be the

2572
01:34:03,910 --> 01:34:02,320
very thing that god uses to catapult you

2573
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:03,920
into your destiny into that place that

2574
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,600
you want to be so continue to do that

2575
01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:08,159
inner work don't be too hard on yourself

2576
01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:10,400
and enjoy the journey brother and in

2577
01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:11,920
that there's so much i mean there's so

2578
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:14,080
many things with spirituality and

2579
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:16,560
grounding and confession and

2580
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:19,280
and prayer and fasting and and plant

2581
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:22,000
medicines listen we have so many tools

2582
01:34:25,430 --> 01:34:23,520
but it's but as long as you're doing

2583
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:25,440
that meditation as long as you're

2584
01:34:29,669 --> 01:34:27,520
getting quiet and you're searching your

2585
01:34:31,270 --> 01:34:29,679
heart and you're asking those questions

2586
01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:31,280
it's going to be illuminated to you the

2587
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:32,880
next steps and what you need to do so i

2588
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:35,440
hope that blesses you bro

2589
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:36,719
thank you for that

2590
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:39,120
uh the next question is from lottie

2591
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:40,480
baker

2592
01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:42,880
saying or asking isn't everything truth

2593
01:34:49,030 --> 01:34:45,199
because you experience it you can accept

2594
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:51,430
yeah that's interesting um

2595
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:53,760
i'm having some some um

2596
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:56,159
convos i guess on my on my facebook

2597
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:58,800
right now with uh some of my my

2598
01:35:01,669 --> 01:35:00,480
christian friends about that and yeah i

2599
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:01,679
think that

2600
01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:03,679
you know our truths may be different and

2601
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:06,080
that we create our reality

2602
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:07,360
that through

2603
01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:08,880
experience

2604
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:10,480
of what is possible

2605
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:12,960
the scripture says that

2606
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:15,920
nothing shall by any means be impossible

2607
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:18,560
to them that believe

2608
01:35:23,590 --> 01:35:21,280
to one person

2609
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,600
there's a limit to that belief

2610
01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:25,440
and the limit could be going out into an

2611
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,679
open field asking for a ufo sighting or

2612
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:29,520
an angel sighting no we can't do that

2613
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:32,480
brother wasn't talking about that

2614
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,480
you don't know until you try it

2615
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:36,320
my reality

2616
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:37,920
is totally different from those people

2617
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:39,600
who don't believe that anymore at least

2618
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:41,600
in that regards

2619
01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:44,960
of what what is is able to be done what

2620
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:47,119
is what is able to be birthed into my

2621
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,880
reality and to be

2622
01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,119
my truth 100

2623
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,040
it's not a belief anymore it started out

2624
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:55,520
as a as a belief it started out as faith

2625
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:57,440
but i think it even transcends faith and

2626
01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,520
now it becomes a knowing and inner

2627
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:01,679
knowing you can't talk me out of it

2628
01:36:05,270 --> 01:36:03,760
you can't debate me out of it you only

2629
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:05,280
way you can debate me out is if you go

2630
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,719
out and you spend the time at least have

2631
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:08,639
the the experience and now let us talk

2632
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:10,639
about it but unless you've experienced

2633
01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:11,520
that

2634
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:13,600
and the feelings and the emotions of any

2635
01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:16,320
of that yeah i do think that

2636
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,480
um we do have different truths and and

2637
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,639
we have different narratives and

2638
01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:23,119
i've been finding that out a lot lately

2639
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:25,760
and and many of us have uh just being on

2640
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:27,920
the internet and being in such a hard

2641
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,000
time like we're going through right now

2642
01:36:33,189 --> 01:36:32,000
um you find people with different

2643
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:33,199
narratives

2644
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:35,360
different belief systems

2645
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:38,960
we're talking about the same thing but

2646
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:41,679
they have two very very very indifferent

2647
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:44,719
interpretations and it's your experience

2648
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:46,880
that births your truth for sure

2649
01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:48,400
and so people will ask the question say

2650
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:49,760
well true seek are you saying that there

2651
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:51,199
is no truth and there's this endless

2652
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:53,199
pursuit of you're supposedly seeking

2653
01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:54,320
truth and you're never going to get to

2654
01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:56,320
the end of it yeah

2655
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:57,600
you're right

2656
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:59,760
because that continues to evolve with

2657
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:01,920
consciousness because what i once

2658
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:03,280
thought was

2659
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:07,040
was was not possible because of life

2660
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:08,320
because of time and because of

2661
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,840
experience

2662
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:11,920
i've entered a new realm

2663
01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:14,960
a new level where at the lower level at

2664
01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:16,400
level three

2665
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:18,239
i didn't have that sword in the video

2666
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:19,440
game

2667
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,679
but at level seven you transition and

2668
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:23,600
you get new weapons you get new

2669
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:25,040
artillery

2670
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:27,280
and you gotta fight different

2671
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:30,239
bosses and and the stages get harder

2672
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:31,840
you didn't know this was coming there's

2673
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:34,320
secrets in that level too if you go and

2674
01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:36,960
hold down on this button you get to

2675
01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:39,360
glitch the matrix

2676
01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:41,040
no you can't

2677
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:43,600
you can't glitch the matrix bro no you

2678
01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:45,520
haven't tried try it

2679
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:47,360
go stand there hold down for three

2680
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:48,639
seconds and you'll see you'll glitch the

2681
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,639
matrix on that level trust me

2682
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:53,199
you know and so in in knowledge is

2683
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,719
gained through experience i believe and

2684
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,639
so when it comes to truth there's so

2685
01:38:00,629 --> 01:37:58,480
many analogy

2686
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,639
and allegory when it comes to leveling

2687
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:02,880
up and what is possible

2688
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:05,600
nothing shall by any means be impossible

2689
01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:07,760
to them that believe i can't give you

2690
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,199
that ceiling

2691
01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:11,679
there is no ceiling

2692
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,880
what you believe yes shows itself to you

2693
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:18,239
and it's

2694
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:20,239
it changes things

2695
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:22,000
most of the stuff i experienced that i

2696
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:23,600
even all the stuff i just told you a

2697
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,520
while ago all this

2698
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,679
demons and this stuff has come through

2699
01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:29,280
the tv

2700
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,960
i've seen movies about this stuff

2701
01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:35,199
and it showed itself to me

2702
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,239
i believed it and i saw it

2703
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:40,560
i watched the video with an old man who

2704
01:38:46,870 --> 01:38:43,520
goes into the field throws his hands up

2705
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,880
and asks for ships to appear on siding

2706
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:48,400
oh that's kind of weird i don't know

2707
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,080
anybody who does that i know a lot of

2708
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:53,669
but

2709
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:56,560
if you go and ask for that

2710
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:58,159
i don't know about that so you have to

2711
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,719
you have to be the one who steps out

2712
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,400
and now we're creating our reality

2713
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,480
because we're changing it we're making

2714
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:06,960
it up as we go

2715
01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:09,600
so yeah there's new things in and

2716
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:11,840
things begin to show itself to you and

2717
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:12,960
trust me

2718
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,119
you know i can my book is full of all of

2719
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:17,760
these experiences in detail

2720
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:18,800
and it

2721
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:19,600
i

2722
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:28,800
days and just talk about the the beauty

2723
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,880
of the spirit world and the beings that

2724
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,480
exist

2725
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:34,800
what about the beings i haven't

2726
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:37,360
encountered now it's not about being

2727
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:39,440
having those encounters but they impart

2728
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:41,440
something to you

2729
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:43,280
it changes the game

2730
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:44,400
fairies

2731
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:45,520
gnomes

2732
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:47,360
elementals

2733
01:39:52,470 --> 01:39:50,800
who does that warlock who summoned one

2734
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,480
on me

2735
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:54,480
elementals aren't real they're just

2736
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,920
saying lore

2737
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:57,440
no

2738
01:40:02,149 --> 01:39:59,280
go ask him

2739
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:02,159
to give you the tutorial on how to do it

2740
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:04,480
but you got to pay

2741
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,880
be a hefty price most likely a piece of

2742
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:08,400
your psyche

2743
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:09,760
when you're doing damage and you're

2744
01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:10,719
doing that

2745
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,189
negativity

2746
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:17,280
but i believe too

2747
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:18,880
i don't know what it is it didn't tell

2748
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,510
something

2749
01:40:28,470 --> 01:40:26,709
that looked like an eight-foot tall

2750
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:28,480
camel

2751
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:34,480
well you know there's there's in in in

2752
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:36,320
many of this this lore there's there's

2753
01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:38,080
beings that

2754
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:40,320
that look like horses like entities that

2755
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,280
are like half horse and like a like

2756
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:45,760
minotaurs and there's like

2757
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:48,239
all types of

2758
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:50,400
beings in demonology that

2759
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:52,239
and gods and stuff is like hold on so

2760
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:53,280
this

2761
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:54,719
maybe people have been writing about

2762
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:56,560
this stuff for a long time that's been

2763
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:58,239
forgotten

2764
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,600
and when people begin to remember the

2765
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:01,760
ancient path and what was

2766
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:04,719
possible again all things and people

2767
01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:07,679
become to begin to become a channel or a

2768
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:08,800
portal

2769
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,960
from one realm into another and i tie

2770
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:13,040
that back to the tv again because your

2771
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:15,840
televisions are channels you turn the

2772
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:17,920
channels your television is a portal

2773
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:20,480
it's what's possible it's what to wear

2774
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:21,840
it's who to love

2775
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,000
it's who to be afraid of

2776
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:27,119
it's what to be afraid of

2777
01:41:30,830 --> 01:41:29,600
there's a steadily feed into our psyche

2778
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:30,840
into our

2779
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:34,159
consciousness of code of ethics

2780
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,679
of conduct

2781
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,840
of worthiness everything you can think

2782
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,600
of

2783
01:41:43,669 --> 01:41:41,199
so we're channels

2784
01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,679
we're portals for that divine nature and

2785
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:45,760
once we remember that yeah

2786
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:48,960
we can create our reality

2787
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:52,480
and if we're good enough at it

2788
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:54,239
we can become an alchemist we can become

2789
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:56,320
a shaman and we can pull things from

2790
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,159
that other realm

2791
01:42:01,590 --> 01:42:00,480
into this one hopefully it's beautiful

2792
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:01,600
things

2793
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:03,520
hopefully it's enlightenment hopefully

2794
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:05,119
it's encouragement

2795
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:06,400
hopefully you're helping people when

2796
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:07,520
they're having a heart hopefully it's

2797
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,520
not lower level

2798
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:11,440
demonic stuff i don't vouch for any of

2799
01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:12,159
that

2800
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:13,199
so

2801
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,520
there's responsibility

2802
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,600
with with such knowledge that i would

2803
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:21,189
thank you for that

2804
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:23,600
uh the next question is from uh claudine

2805
01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:24,320
g

2806
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:28,239
possessions of innocent souls like

2807
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,990
yeah so

2808
01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:37,270
um

2809
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:39,040
i really believe in and when you're

2810
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:41,520
getting into demonic possession

2811
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:43,920
that you're dealing with

2812
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:50,709
when i was a child again when i look

2813
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,320
back at

2814
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:54,239
four years old

2815
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:55,119
and

2816
01:43:01,430 --> 01:42:58,800
these beings being in my room

2817
01:43:02,229 --> 01:43:01,440
pinning me down to the bed

2818
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:02,239
and

2819
01:43:06,390 --> 01:43:04,960
they were shadows

2820
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:06,400
what is it

2821
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,760
is it a bad dream um

2822
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:13,199
they're the shadow beings were they

2823
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:14,560
trying to scare me were they trying to

2824
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:17,840
warn me is it angels like what is it

2825
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:22,310
one thing that i do know if i was to

2826
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:26,480
look at set and setting which are key

2827
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:32,709
my family

2828
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:35,520
is from new orleans and

2829
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:36,320
my

2830
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:40,400
grandmother everyone practiced a little

2831
01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:41,760
bit of voodoo

2832
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:43,280
it's normal

2833
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:45,440
to burn certain candles

2834
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:46,480
to

2835
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,000
even in

2836
01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:52,560
burning a candle like they were it was

2837
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:54,800
so common

2838
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:56,560
for my mom and them to do it back in

2839
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:58,560
those days to where i remember phone

2840
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:01,040
calls of like

2841
01:44:05,669 --> 01:44:03,679
you know so-and-so owes me forty dollars

2842
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:05,679
and they won't pay me you gotta you got

2843
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:07,440
a red candle i can burn

2844
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:09,119
yeah i got you one i bring it over and

2845
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:10,880
it's like oh wow

2846
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,560
bring it over a red candle for i can

2847
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:14,880
burn it and send that intention that

2848
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:17,119
when i burn it i'm creating

2849
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:18,320
a tulpa

2850
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:19,920
which is an entity that's created

2851
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:21,280
through the mind

2852
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:24,400
and i'm sending it out

2853
01:44:27,910 --> 01:44:27,040
much like the warlock did me so they're

2854
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:27,920
doing

2855
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:29,840
candle magic

2856
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:30,719
but

2857
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,159
using it for negativity

2858
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,159
now you you're you'll light a white

2859
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,719
candle and ask for prosperity there's

2860
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,400
other candles that you would like for

2861
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:42,000
different reasons

2862
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:43,840
but when the red ones and the black ones

2863
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:46,239
came out they me they meant business

2864
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:47,920
it's i need something that to do

2865
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,800
something evil or wicked on on my behalf

2866
01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:52,960
so my family did that

2867
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,159
um

2868
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:56,000
so they tapped into the spirit world to

2869
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:57,679
to a degree i don't think they know what

2870
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:59,040
they're dealing with or what they were

2871
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,880
playing with at the time it was just

2872
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:02,800
normal it's the voodoo

2873
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,920
capital is new orleans right um on top

2874
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:07,119
of that

2875
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,639
you know i talk about debauchery and i

2876
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,639
talk about drunkenness and i talk about

2877
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:12,159
drug use and all of this kind of stuff

2878
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,520
my

2879
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:15,360
as a little kid

2880
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:17,600
i don't have a lot of memories but i do

2881
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:20,800
have memories of crazy parties

2882
01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:22,480
and waking up and going into the living

2883
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,719
room and there's people everywhere

2884
01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:26,560
there's drunkenness people passed out on

2885
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:30,000
the floor i remember sitting at the

2886
01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:31,840
dinner table

2887
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:34,159
has four years old

2888
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:35,840
eating candy out of the candy dish in

2889
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:38,080
the middle of the

2890
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,159
table

2891
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:42,080
and there was another

2892
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:45,360
old drunk man across from me

2893
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:46,880
eating candy as well and i'm talking to

2894
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:48,480
him eating the candy oh i like this one

2895
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:50,320
i like that one i'm four years old and

2896
01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:52,000
the man falls straight backward he just

2897
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:53,679
passes out in mid conversation

2898
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:55,840
mid-sentence he just

2899
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:58,239
loses consciousness from being so drunk

2900
01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:00,880
and so intoxicated in drugs and all of

2901
01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:03,360
that he just falls back

2902
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:04,800
and all of my dad and all they had to

2903
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:06,400
run in and grab and pick him oh he's had

2904
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:07,679
too much get him out so this was like

2905
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,760
the atmosphere of

2906
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:11,600
strange individuals coming in and out of

2907
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:12,719
your home

2908
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:15,119
mom and dad burning candles

2909
01:46:18,550 --> 01:46:16,560
ouija board

2910
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:18,560
tarot cards like a lot of stuff was in

2911
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:21,600
the atmosphere so

2912
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:23,119
when it comes to

2913
01:46:27,910 --> 01:46:24,960
your four-year-old

2914
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:27,920
is in the next bedroom over

2915
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:29,040
sleeping

2916
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:31,040
and you're burning candles asking for

2917
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:33,280
negative entities to be summoned upon

2918
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:35,840
your enemies

2919
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:37,679
there's a reason

2920
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:41,119
why jesus has to pray for your enemies

2921
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,360
bless them who curse you if someone

2922
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:45,119
takes your jacket go get the other one

2923
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:46,639
take this one too if you need it that

2924
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:48,639
bad and here's the other

2925
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:50,800
if someone slaps you on the cheek turn

2926
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,199
to them the other also like there's a

2927
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:55,280
reason not you're not supposed to repay

2928
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,800
evil with evil

2929
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:58,320
there's there's entities that are

2930
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:59,920
summoned with malicious intent and

2931
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:02,000
especially doing candle magic so with

2932
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:03,679
that there's the set and setting and

2933
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:05,199
there's the scenery

2934
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:06,800
so you're doing all of these things and

2935
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:09,199
just so happen

2936
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:10,480
some of the entities that you're

2937
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:12,159
entertaining that you've given legal

2938
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:14,000
ground to come into our home

2939
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:15,600
have now

2940
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:16,960
walked into

2941
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:19,600
your son's bedroom

2942
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:23,520
and is messing with your son

2943
01:47:26,709 --> 01:47:24,960
and is now

2944
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,719
possessing your son

2945
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:28,560
your son's now seven eight nine years

2946
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:34,470
still with them on some things that you

2947
01:47:37,510 --> 01:47:35,600
did when

2948
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:37,520
you didn't know

2949
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,880
that's why the scripture says father

2950
01:47:43,030 --> 01:47:40,400
forgive them for they know not what they

2951
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:43,040
do because if they knew it

2952
01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:44,800
it wouldn't do such things

2953
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:46,639
and so that's why spirituality and

2954
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:47,760
that's why

2955
01:47:52,870 --> 01:47:50,400
the potency of our words and our actions

2956
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:52,880
carry weight because if we knew

2957
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:55,440
that every word created

2958
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:58,239
beings that we create as we speak that

2959
01:48:02,629 --> 01:47:59,840
life and death is in the power of the

2960
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:02,639
tongue abracadabra i created as i speak

2961
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:04,960
it i am the magician i am the alchemist

2962
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:06,880
and i get to use it for good or for bad

2963
01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:08,880
i think it would be cognitive

2964
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:10,960
about every action and about everything

2965
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,639
that we did and i know that that was

2966
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,719
kind of a longer story but when it comes

2967
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:17,440
to dealing with children and possession

2968
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:18,800
in entities

2969
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:21,119
we got we that's definitely something to

2970
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:22,719
look at and i think it was my case for

2971
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,510
thank you for that uh what do you think

2972
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:29,920
about um two more questions and then we

2973
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:33,199
can finish up

2974
01:48:36,709 --> 01:48:34,719
great you're great great yeah good good

2975
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:36,719
having fun i wanted to check with you

2976
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:38,320
first um

2977
01:48:43,109 --> 01:48:40,639
sorry i scrolled down now i've lost my

2978
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:43,119
spot now this one this question is from

2979
01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:44,719
stacy tillman

2980
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:47,199
and i'm gonna not be unable to pronounce

2981
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:49,360
this properly but you might know she's

2982
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:52,000
asking what do you think about jeffrey

2983
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:53,520
dougherty

2984
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,239
uh the christian whistleblower many who

2985
01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:58,560
say we have we have been horribly

2986
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:01,119
deceived what's the truth about jesus

2987
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,870
so i don't know um much about his work

2988
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:08,320
and i'm assuming the name's jeffrey

2989
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:10,239
daughtry i don't know much about his

2990
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:13,280
work in particular so um if you want to

2991
01:49:16,629 --> 01:49:14,719
i don't know i can maybe do some

2992
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,639
research or or what he's blowing the

2993
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:18,480
whistle on and how we've been deceived

2994
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:19,599
about

2995
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:22,000
um religion or the true the true god the

2996
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:23,840
true jesus um

2997
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:26,000
the uh i think the way to to navigate

2998
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,440
through deception because there's a lot

2999
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:29,040
of it then to navigate through the

3000
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,960
opinions because there's a lot of it and

3001
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:32,400
to navigate through other people's

3002
01:49:35,669 --> 01:49:33,920
truths

3003
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:35,679
because there's a lot of it is to have

3004
01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:37,119
your own experience and have your own

3005
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:39,040
truth because once you have it nobody

3006
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:41,040
can take it away from you i go on

3007
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:42,880
podcast i

3008
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:45,199
i talk to people from all walks of life

3009
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:46,639
who have a different experience in a

3010
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:48,320
different encounter in a different

3011
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:50,239
relationship with the bible or a

3012
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,159
different relationship with spirituality

3013
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,520
or jesus and

3014
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,880
whether they don't believe or whether

3015
01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:56,880
they watch the documentary

3016
01:50:01,189 --> 01:49:59,199
that jordan maxwell put out that says

3017
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:01,199
that jesus never existed and so they

3018
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:02,719
watched it and it was shared from a

3019
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:05,920
place of authority and it seemed like

3020
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:07,360
they knew what they were talking about

3021
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:08,880
and they gave a couple scriptures and

3022
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:11,520
they gave a couple historical references

3023
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:13,840
and therefore it imparted something to

3024
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:14,960
us that

3025
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:17,440
we it tried to take our experience away

3026
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:20,000
from us and so i talked to those people

3027
01:50:23,589 --> 01:50:20,960
um

3028
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:23,599
question everything for sure but once

3029
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,199
you have

3030
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:27,360
your um

3031
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:29,040
experience nothing can take that away

3032
01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:29,920
from you

3033
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:33,040
now yeah you should be open to trying to

3034
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:34,880
seek and try to explain and figure out

3035
01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:37,440
what it was especially when you find out

3036
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:39,520
that it was something that it's not but

3037
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,040
you also got to understand that there

3038
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,040
there are rules of engagement there are

3039
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:44,960
universal laws that apply to everyone

3040
01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:46,239
whether you're christian or whether

3041
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,960
you're

3042
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:47,840
um

3043
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,159
atheist or or buddhist or hindu their

3044
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:52,800
universal laws and things that that has

3045
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,440
cause and reaction that that is a part

3046
01:50:59,669 --> 01:50:57,679
of this earth realm and that everyone

3047
01:51:02,390 --> 01:50:59,679
has to adhere to and i think that many

3048
01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:02,400
of those sacred texts explain that

3049
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:04,800
so if anything's trying to be exposed i

3050
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:07,360
would say look at all of

3051
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:09,360
the cultures look at all of the

3052
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:11,920
religions and whatever

3053
01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:13,760
seems to be a meme

3054
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:15,920
something that is repeating itself over

3055
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:16,960
and over

3056
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:19,040
through all of the religions look at

3057
01:51:22,390 --> 01:51:20,400
that as truth

3058
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,400
look at that as something that it's not

3059
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,400
just good for these people but it's for

3060
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:26,480
everybody it's not just good for this

3061
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,880
one sect but everybody can tap into it

3062
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:30,639
now the names and the titles and the

3063
01:51:34,709 --> 01:51:32,320
cities and the places and the skin color

3064
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,719
and all of these things may be different

3065
01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:36,719
but the fruit

3066
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:39,199
the results of said actions of said

3067
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:40,480
beliefs

3068
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:42,320
are the same

3069
01:51:44,310 --> 01:51:43,199
so

3070
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:44,320
i don't

3071
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:46,400
care what what names we put on these

3072
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,599
things i think it's fun i think i like

3073
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:51,360
all of the names i'm not married to a

3074
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:53,679
name you know i'm i'm not married to a

3075
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,280
religion i'm not married to an outcome

3076
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:58,960
and i think for us to be real truth

3077
01:52:02,629 --> 01:52:01,040
seekers that we have to

3078
01:52:05,189 --> 01:52:02,639
remain that way

3079
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:05,199
now our our experiences impart something

3080
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,199
to us they they burst something within

3081
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,840
us our traumas do that too

3082
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:11,040
but just because we've had that

3083
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:12,400
experience it doesn't mean that it's

3084
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:15,199
true so there's just there's this

3085
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:16,719
inner dialogue there's this inner

3086
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,560
seeking this this inner knowing that

3087
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:20,320
that we remain in

3088
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:21,599
and um

3089
01:52:25,669 --> 01:52:24,080
and i've made you know up my mind that

3090
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:25,679
i'm gonna i'm gonna

3091
01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:27,360
you know champion love i'm gonna

3092
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,119
champion peace i'm gonna champion

3093
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,040
healing and i'm gonna let that be a part

3094
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:33,119
of my story and let that be a part of my

3095
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,320
truth so

3096
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,679
um

3097
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:36,960
you know the bible says that everything

3098
01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:39,119
that can be will be shaken

3099
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:41,199
and it's a good thing

3100
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,360
anything that is not built upon that

3101
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:45,920
firm foundation of love and of peace and

3102
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:48,560
of righteousness and of good rapport

3103
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,560
let it be shaken because everything that

3104
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:52,880
is will stand at the end of the day in

3105
01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:55,119
in standing in eternity

3106
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:58,320
these things will have everlasting value

3107
01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:00,320
i really believe that and again i

3108
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:02,239
championed that work i'm not married to

3109
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:03,280
a name

3110
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:06,080
um i'm not married to a religion

3111
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:08,239
i'm married to my wife and i'm married

3112
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,119
to

3113
01:53:13,910 --> 01:53:11,360
the spirit of truth which is which is

3114
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:13,920
love and i call the holy spirit or or

3115
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:15,920
christ and and even those have many

3116
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:19,280
nuances and many names as well

3117
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,360
thank you for that okay so the last

3118
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,000
question i have is from edward sosa so

3119
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,560
forgive me they've written however

3120
01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:28,480
he wrote it so i'm just going to read it

3121
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:31,119
and i hope it makes sense

3122
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:32,960
the question is what do you think about

3123
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,239
jesus going to india knowledge is power

3124
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:38,080
ignorance is evil

3125
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:43,669
hey thank you for that question i think

3126
01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:45,679
it's a good way to end the discussion

3127
01:53:52,550 --> 01:53:48,320
too um and it's a good way to plug my

3128
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,560
upcoming album is entitled white magic

3129
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:54,960
you know white magic is

3130
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:56,960
is the um

3131
01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:57,840
title

3132
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:00,960
and it's a polarizing word magic right

3133
01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:03,040
you said magic is neutral

3134
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:04,880
um i'm

3135
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:06,560
i encourage you to join the discussion

3136
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:08,400
on my facebook page i'm getting attacked

3137
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:10,480
by a lot of my christian friends uh with

3138
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,360
with that terminology white magic

3139
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,960
because they would say there is no magic

3140
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:16,239
you know there or

3141
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:18,960
only magic is conjuring of the demonic

3142
01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:21,119
nature of black magic

3143
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:24,080
so they they don't you know see any any

3144
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:26,880
contrast or hue within the colors but i

3145
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,119
really i really do think that what you

3146
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:31,440
said is true

3147
01:54:33,790 --> 01:54:32,400
magic

3148
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:33,800
is neutral

3149
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:35,360
spirituality

3150
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:36,560
is neutral

3151
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:38,080
our intentions

3152
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:41,040
our motives and the way that we use it

3153
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:44,239
gives it its color whether it be white

3154
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:46,320
black gray

3155
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:48,080
other people say there's brown and many

3156
01:54:53,270 --> 01:54:52,400
other different shades of colors as well

3157
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:53,280
but

3158
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:56,320
the same is to be said with any tool

3159
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:58,239
magic is a tool energy is a constant

3160
01:55:01,270 --> 01:55:00,080
flow is what you do with it

3161
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:01,280
people

3162
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:02,320
you know

3163
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:04,320
the message of jesus is a very beautiful

3164
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:05,599
message and it's very near and dear and

3165
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,040
close to my heart

3166
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:08,960
but i've seen people extort that message

3167
01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,440
i've seen people use it to

3168
01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:13,280
gain authority over people to tell them

3169
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:14,560
that they're going to hell and to

3170
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,080
convince them that and then be able to

3171
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:20,800
tell them anything else to abuse them to

3172
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:22,960
harm them you know so that's that

3173
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,080
message is

3174
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,320
is a pure message it's just the message

3175
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,920
but it's how the

3176
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,679
it's how the speaker is how the prophet

3177
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:31,199
is how the preacher shares it and

3178
01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:32,480
delivers it

3179
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,320
and you put words in god's mouth and

3180
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,159
then therefore you you color it with

3181
01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:38,159
your own color

3182
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:39,679
so something that's just

3183
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:41,040
neutral

3184
01:55:46,149 --> 01:55:44,239
you make it white black gray

3185
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:46,159
a hammer

3186
01:55:53,669 --> 01:55:50,950
it depends how you use it

3187
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:53,679
you can build a house with a hammer

3188
01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:56,000
to some people they use hammers every

3189
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:56,800
day

3190
01:56:00,709 --> 01:55:58,880
carpentry work

3191
01:56:01,750 --> 01:56:00,719
to another person when they see that

3192
01:56:02,629 --> 01:56:01,760
hammer

3193
01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:02,639
it's a

3194
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,320
you can kill somebody with that same

3195
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,239
hammer

3196
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:10,239
with all of spirituality and everything

3197
01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:11,840
that i've been talking about

3198
01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:14,480
polarities left right color contrast up

3199
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:16,400
down

3200
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:18,960
yin yang positive negative

3201
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:20,639
north south

3202
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:23,280
east west there's polarities they exist

3203
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:26,880
for a reason to show you

3204
01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:28,560
the student

3205
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:30,400
the contrast that they hold

3206
01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:31,840
and the beauty is in the eye of the

3207
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:34,000
beholder it's up to you it's not up to

3208
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:35,840
my pastor it's not up to my daughter

3209
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:38,080
it's not up to my wife it's up to me

3210
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:39,520
it's up to you to be able to look at

3211
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,599
that thing and see beauty in it

3212
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:44,080
to use it for good

3213
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:46,000
prayer another tool

3214
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:47,920
prayer is a tool prayer is not something

3215
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:49,199
that's

3216
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,599
across the board good

3217
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,119
some people pray

3218
01:56:58,229 --> 01:56:55,679
for their enemies

3219
01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:58,239
some people pray for blessings

3220
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,159
upon their family they pray for that god

3221
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:02,159
would heal and touch people so they're

3222
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:04,159
using prayers for

3223
01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:05,920
a good reason good intention is

3224
01:57:09,589 --> 01:57:07,280
connected to this

3225
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:09,599
modality of prayer

3226
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:11,440
and for others

3227
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:13,760
they would pray for your downfall

3228
01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:16,800
they are praying for your demise

3229
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:18,480
they are praying that you fall so that

3230
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:20,880
they can take your position

3231
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:22,800
they're praying to demons

3232
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:25,520
they're praying like a young true seeker

3233
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:28,400
making pacts with fallen entities

3234
01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:31,040
to go out and harm people

3235
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:33,360
so therefore you have this

3236
01:57:35,990 --> 01:57:34,960
same

3237
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:36,000
tool

3238
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:38,639
that is being used for either good

3239
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,159
bad

3240
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:42,400
or really not even being used at all

3241
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:43,440
because the person doesn't know and

3242
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:45,440
therefore you make it neutral so yes all

3243
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:47,840
energy i believe

3244
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:49,760
is neutral

3245
01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:50,719
all

3246
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,639
things exist

3247
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:54,880
all beliefs exist and

3248
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:56,960
for you the practitioner

3249
01:57:59,830 --> 01:57:58,239
the believer

3250
01:58:01,030 --> 01:57:59,840
whatever word you want to put there the

3251
01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:01,040
magician

3252
01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:02,880
you have the power to say

3253
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:05,280
abracadabra and literally

3254
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:08,080
created as you speak it so again with

3255
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:10,080
that being said we understand the power

3256
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:13,280
and the potency of such

3257
01:58:16,629 --> 01:58:15,280
tools

3258
01:58:17,990 --> 01:58:16,639
you don't

3259
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:18,000
let your kid

3260
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:20,000
come to a job site on a construction

3261
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:25,189
some people do but that's not the

3262
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:27,599
analogy

3263
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:29,840
you have to be trained

3264
01:58:32,709 --> 01:58:31,280
with the equipment you have to be

3265
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:32,719
trained

3266
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:36,960
with the tools and so um

3267
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:40,000
knowing that everything has polarity

3268
01:58:43,589 --> 01:58:41,360
every tool

3269
01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:43,599
every modality

3270
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:46,239
and every person

3271
01:58:50,070 --> 01:58:48,800
makes it a lot more interesting and a

3272
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:50,080
lot more

3273
01:58:53,990 --> 01:58:51,920
um i bring that into my spiritual

3274
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:54,000
practice to know that that i have the

3275
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:56,239
ability because we we we get on these

3276
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:57,920
high horses

3277
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:01,679
that people are only good or only bad

3278
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:03,199
when the fact of the matter is people

3279
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:04,880
are both

3280
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:07,599
and we have the ability to choose

3281
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:10,080
choose life that you may live

3282
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:12,320
choose good and good will come back to

3283
01:59:14,950 --> 01:59:13,360
you

3284
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:14,960
do no harm

3285
01:59:19,510 --> 01:59:16,880
if you do it you create more of it and

3286
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:19,520
it begins to show itself to you

3287
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:21,199
so knowing that when someone does good

3288
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:22,159
to you

3289
01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:23,520
without

3290
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:25,040
wanting something in return when

3291
01:59:28,830 --> 01:59:27,199
somebody chooses

3292
01:59:31,990 --> 01:59:28,840
that narrow

3293
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:32,000
path when you choose it every time know

3294
01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:33,440
that you're you're making the right

3295
01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:34,880
decision

3296
01:59:39,589 --> 01:59:37,360
and it's never the wrong

3297
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:39,599
even if you don't get vengeance even if

3298
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:41,760
you don't repay evil for evil the

3299
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:44,960
universe has a way of working it out

3300
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:49,280
of losing and binding teachers

3301
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:51,119
that can teach that person way better

3302
01:59:54,149 --> 01:59:52,960
than you can

3303
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:54,159
and that's the

3304
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:55,520
that's the just of this entire

3305
01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:57,119
conversation

3306
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:58,800
any thoughts on the part where he's

3307
02:00:02,390 --> 02:00:00,400
asking what do you think about jesus

3308
02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:02,400
going to india

3309
02:00:05,990 --> 02:00:03,679
okay

3310
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:06,000
um again with magic you know that i

3311
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:08,719
think that comes into play um i don't

3312
02:00:14,229 --> 02:00:12,800
know much about india per se um

3313
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:14,239
there's a lot of theory there's a lot of

3314
02:00:18,470 --> 02:00:16,000
books there's a lot of shrines i think

3315
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:18,480
there's a there's a shrine to his mother

3316
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:20,080
mary in india which is really

3317
02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:22,560
interesting and and they believe that i

3318
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:26,239
think her uh they have her burial ground

3319
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,560
in india interesting many people say he

3320
02:00:32,149 --> 02:00:30,080
went to india

3321
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:32,159
and was taught many people say he went

3322
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:34,400
to india and taught

3323
02:00:39,030 --> 02:00:36,880
i do know this i don't know about india

3324
02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:39,040
i'm not against it but i will say i know

3325
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:41,040
this for a fact

3326
02:00:47,109 --> 02:00:44,159
all of the biblical patriarchs

3327
02:00:48,790 --> 02:00:47,119
take pilgrimages to

3328
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:48,800
egypt

3329
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:52,080
mystery schools

3330
02:00:57,030 --> 02:00:53,520
and

3331
02:00:58,310 --> 02:00:57,040
the great mysteries of the magi

3332
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of

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the jedi

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that's from egypt

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02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:09,440
they're called if you look up the the

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jetty priests dj

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02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:16,320
edi jetty priest of egypt

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02:01:21,350 --> 02:01:18,320
every prophet

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02:01:24,149 --> 02:01:21,360
and every patriarch took a pilgrimage to

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02:01:25,669 --> 02:01:24,159
egypt moses

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02:01:27,669 --> 02:01:25,679
was trained

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02:01:29,990 --> 02:01:27,679
in egyptian magic

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02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:30,000
daniel

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02:01:34,149 --> 02:01:32,159
the one of the greatest

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02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:34,159
magicians

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02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,880
dream interpreters

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02:01:41,270 --> 02:01:38,239
joseph

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02:01:43,589 --> 02:01:41,280
these guys were skilled in divination

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02:01:45,669 --> 02:01:43,599
these guys were skilled in

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02:01:47,510 --> 02:01:45,679
spirituality and i think that all of

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02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:47,520
them used it

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02:01:51,910 --> 02:01:50,159
as a form of white magic

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02:01:54,790 --> 02:01:51,920
i think that maybe some of the other

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02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:54,800
ones were were misguided

3355
02:01:59,030 --> 02:01:56,880
but as far as taking that pilgrimage to

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02:02:00,390 --> 02:01:59,040
a place to learn they went to egypt to

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02:02:04,550 --> 02:02:00,400
learn

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02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:04,560
and i tie that in with jesus to say that

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02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:06,960
jesus when he was a child

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02:02:10,870 --> 02:02:08,560
they were trying to kill all the the

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02:02:12,070 --> 02:02:10,880
firstborns when he was born

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02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:12,080
so

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02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:14,159
herod put out a decree because he heard

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02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,080
that the messiah that the jews looked to

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02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:18,159
was being born

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02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:20,880
the magi the stargazers

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02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:22,320
the magicians

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02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:24,880
were the ones to greet

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02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:27,840
the messiah and follow the star to his

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02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:29,520
birthplace

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02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:31,199
it wasn't the pastors it wasn't the

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02:02:36,070 --> 02:02:33,119
priests it wasn't the teachers it was

3373
02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:36,080
the magi the magicians the stargazers

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02:02:41,189 --> 02:02:38,480
who read his story in the stars

3375
02:02:42,550 --> 02:02:41,199
and they showed up there and then

3376
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:42,560
his family

3377
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:44,560
has to leave town

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02:02:49,030 --> 02:02:46,320
and they do because they herod went on

3379
02:02:51,030 --> 02:02:49,040
and killed all the the firstborn uh

3380
02:02:53,589 --> 02:02:51,040
between that certain period that he

3381
02:02:55,109 --> 02:02:53,599
heard that there was children being born

3382
02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:55,119
um

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02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:57,599
so he goes to egypt

3384
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:59,040
as an infant

3385
02:03:03,990 --> 02:03:01,520
and he comes back

3386
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:04,000
to israel to jerusalem

3387
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:05,760
the next time we see this is biblical

3388
02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:08,880
like he comes back at the age of 13.

3389
02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:10,960
he's like 13 and 14 as he's coming for

3390
02:03:14,950 --> 02:03:12,960
pretty much this bar mitzvah

3391
02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:14,960
we don't know where he was before that

3392
02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:16,639
and it's you leave it up to theory but

3393
02:03:23,350 --> 02:03:20,400
we do know he leaves and goes to egypt

3394
02:03:24,709 --> 02:03:23,360
we see him coming back at 13 14 years

3395
02:03:26,709 --> 02:03:24,719
old

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02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:26,719
and he's in the temple his parents are

3397
02:03:30,149 --> 02:03:28,480
worried where is he

3398
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:30,159
is that passover

3399
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:31,920
he's in the temple they find him in the

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02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:34,080
temple

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02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:38,159
13

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02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:41,119
year old little boy supposedly is

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02:03:46,149 --> 02:03:43,679
teaching all

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02:03:48,310 --> 02:03:46,159
of the scribes and the pharisees

3405
02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:48,320
and he's teaching them things blowing

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02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:50,719
their minds

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02:03:55,109 --> 02:03:53,040
when it comes to knowledge

3408
02:03:57,910 --> 02:03:55,119
spirituality

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02:04:00,470 --> 02:03:57,920
magic if you will lore where did he

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02:04:01,990 --> 02:04:00,480
learn it from if he learned it from them

3411
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:02,000
they would already knew and he couldn't

3412
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:04,000
have taught them anything

3413
02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:06,400
he's just a young boy

3414
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:07,760
they're far older you're not going to

3415
02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:09,440
teach your elders something that they

3416
02:04:14,149 --> 02:04:11,440
don't know he goes

3417
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:14,159
what i believe to be taught in egypt

3418
02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:15,599
that we know for sure because the

3419
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:17,360
scripture says it but we don't know

3420
02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:18,320
where else he went he could have

3421
02:04:22,390 --> 02:04:20,800
pilgrimage to india as well but i find

3422
02:04:24,310 --> 02:04:22,400
it very interesting just like all the

3423
02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:24,320
other patriarchs go and they're taught

3424
02:04:29,030 --> 02:04:27,040
by the ways it says moses was trained in

3425
02:04:30,950 --> 02:04:29,040
all of the wisdom of egypt

3426
02:04:32,870 --> 02:04:30,960
daniel the same thing

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02:04:34,390 --> 02:04:32,880
jesus comes back

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02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:34,400
with all of this

3429
02:04:37,990 --> 02:04:35,840
information so much so that he's

3430
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:38,000
teaching his elders and he's blowing

3431
02:04:41,350 --> 02:04:39,280
their minds so

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02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:41,360
let's look look into egypt

3433
02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:43,520
look into some of the egyptian mysteries

3434
02:04:49,109 --> 02:04:46,719
that are lost and forgotten as well

3435
02:04:50,870 --> 02:04:49,119
truth seeker thank you for that so just

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02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:50,880
real quick uh feedback on some of your

3437
02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:53,199
answers crypto says love it thank you

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02:04:56,950 --> 02:04:55,119
and stacy wanted to say

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02:04:59,990 --> 02:04:56,960
please tell him i'm so very grateful for

3440
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:00,000
his answer it seems seems i knew it and

3441
02:05:06,470 --> 02:05:03,920
the confirmation is just what i needed

3442
02:05:10,229 --> 02:05:06,480
awesome so true secret thank you very

3443
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:10,239
much all of those uh watching again all

3444
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:12,159
the links everything that the

3445
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:14,560
truthseeker has to offer the podcast

3446
02:05:19,109 --> 02:05:16,480
everything else it does the links are in

3447
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:19,119
the description below and so to seek i

3448
02:05:22,550 --> 02:05:20,639
want to just give you the last word

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02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:22,560
about anything else that you

3450
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:24,000
might have going on if you have a

3451
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:25,599
specific schedule when you do your

3452
02:05:29,189 --> 02:05:27,360
podcast and anything else you want to

3453
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,199
finish up with

3454
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:31,199
for sure again thank you so much for

3455
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:33,840
having me on and um let me come on here

3456
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:35,520
and share your platform and i love what

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02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:36,880
you do and thank you for creating this

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02:05:41,669 --> 02:05:38,000
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02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:41,679
um my my website is truth seeker dot com

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02:05:47,669 --> 02:05:45,119
truth s e e k a h dot com uh all of my

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02:05:49,669 --> 02:05:47,679
stuff is there i do guided meditations

3462
02:05:51,109 --> 02:05:49,679
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02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:51,119
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02:05:58,149 --> 02:05:52,159
about

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02:06:00,470 --> 02:05:58,159
be officially released the pre-order is

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02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,480
up right now at the website it's

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02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:02,480
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02:06:07,510 --> 02:06:05,119
um finding beautiful articulate ways to

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02:06:08,470 --> 02:06:07,520
to share the spirituality to share truth

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02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:08,480
and to

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02:06:12,069 --> 02:06:09,440
uh

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02:06:14,069 --> 02:06:12,079
impart awe and wonder and creativity in

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02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:14,079
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02:06:17,830 --> 02:06:16,239
to the table i go live every tuesday and

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02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:17,840
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02:06:20,709 --> 02:06:18,639
and

3477
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:20,719
we're also live on all the podcasting

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02:06:24,709 --> 02:06:22,480
apps as well so for those of you who are

3479
02:06:26,069 --> 02:06:24,719
interested or resonate with anything i

3480
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:26,079
brought to the table definitely check it

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02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:27,599
out i'd love to

3482
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:29,440
answer your questions and and connect

3483
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:32,400
with you um on social media so i'm on

3484
02:06:36,790 --> 02:06:34,400
all of them as well so thank you so much

3485
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:36,800
for for having me

3486
02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:39,119
no thank you i really appreciate it and

3487
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:41,599
um also everyone else watching thank you

3488
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:44,480
for tuning in and and uh listening

3489
02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:47,679
um it's a bit different the today that i

3490
02:06:51,109 --> 02:06:49,679
have something going on live but that

3491
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:51,119
was the only way we could schedule it

3492
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:53,199
with both of our schedules so i'm glad

3493
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,560
i'm glad we did

3494
02:07:01,830 --> 02:06:56,719
and

3495
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,840
coming up this wednesday at 7 pm we're

3496
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:03,599
going to have open lines and i'm going

3497
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:05,679
to be talking about some things that uh

3498
02:07:09,510 --> 02:07:07,360
were recently

3499
02:07:12,629 --> 02:07:09,520
in the ndaa about

3500
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:12,639
ufps and then of course another podcast

3501
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,520
i could not podcast but uh i call it a

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02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,920
uh webcast because i don't do podcasts

3503
02:07:22,149 --> 02:07:19,760
so whatever you see is only on youtube

3504
02:07:25,109 --> 02:07:22,159
and some of few other platforms but

3505
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:25,119
again and then on friday at 7 00 p.m i'm

3506
02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:27,840
going to have another live stream so

3507
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:30,320
trueseeker thank you again everyone else